RE: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: Kevin Ross [mailto:ke...@familyross.net] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:31 PM > > > From: clivemcbar...@web.de [mailto:clivemcbar...@web.de] > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:14 PM > > > > Kevin Ross wrote: > > > "Reply to List" button (which I know > > > was available as an add-on befo

RE: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: clivemcbar...@web.de [mailto:clivemcbar...@web.de] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:14 PM > > Kevin Ross wrote: > > "Reply to List" button (which I know > > was available as an add-on before) > > You remember what the add-on is called? Searching for "reply to list" > in add-ons didn't giv

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Ross wrote: > "Reply to List" button (which I know > was available as an add-on before) You remember what the add-on is called? Searching for "reply to list" in add-ons didn't give me anything. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 10:17 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] You might want to try Help -> Migration Assistant -> Use Original Toolbar That might be more familiar to you. I'd already done that, but decided to take another look at MA, and

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Why else would "they" have made the radical UI changes unless "they" thought > the traditional UI was broken (i.e. substantialy flawed)? > Maybe not broken, but could be improved. > Jeez, everyone know that *my* opinion is the only one that counts! > :) > Not in v3.6, but it's coming. > > h

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 10:17 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] You might want to try Help -> Migration Assistant -> Use Original Toolbar That might be more familiar to you. I'd already done that, but decided to take another look at MA, and thus disabled "Smart

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 09:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the invalid server cert issue). But Tbird/ID 2.0.x (the layout and UI) was *not* broken! What is "broken"? What

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread godo
That's true! I also hate cosmetics changes. After upgrade I was scared that it mess all my sub folders. But at least in Thunderbird/Icedove it is possible to turn back on old way. How? I've minimized the damage, but still don't like it. When it is first time opened afther upgrade there is

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Lots of other issues, such as the message header being huge, are taken >> care of in addons. And lots of Tb2 bugs are fixed in Tb3 (such as the >> invalid server cert issue). > > But Tbird/ID 2.0.x (the layout and UI) was *not* broken! > What is "broken"? What would you say if an Ubuntard poste

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 09:29 AM, godo wrote: It's "different" for *no ascertainable reasons*. Fix what *is* broken, not what's not broken. The same with FireFox/Iceweasel. Major UI and add-on redesigns in an upcoming version, but the UI is fine just like it is. That's true! I also hate cosmetics cha

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread godo
It's "different" for *no ascertainable reasons*. Fix what *is* broken, not what's not broken. The same with FireFox/Iceweasel. Major UI and add-on redesigns in an upcoming version, but the UI is fine just like it is. That's true! I also hate cosmetics changes. After upgrade I was scared that

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/25/2010 08:02 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 25 April 2010 02:50, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: > [snip] >> >> PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of >> sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. >> > > I don't think I've hated a program more than

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-25 Thread James P. Wallen
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbir

Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

2010-04-24 Thread Kevin Ross
On 4/24/2010 4:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote: [snip] PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa. I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0