Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: No, you can have libc4, libc5, and libc6 on the machine simultaneously. These are just run time shared libraries, and do not interfere with each other. There should be only one -dev package at one time. Do not

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on your machine that depends on libc4. It is my understanding (and experience)

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Sep 25, 1997 at 10:28:18PM -0400, Scott K. Ellis wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on your machine

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread schulte
According to Scott K. Ellis: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 1997 at 10:06:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on your machine that depends on libc4. It

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-26 Thread Lukas Eppler
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not not installing libc6 coexisting with libc5, as described by Scott EllisĀ“ Mini-Howto which is weekly (?) posted on this list. It proved to be painless for me and has bash-2.01. It is a rather small step, making my system in no way unstable.

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-25 Thread Pete Harlan
For the most part, it means non-changing. While it would be nice to fix each package with a problem, doing so always runs the risk of breaking other packages on the system. Verifying the integrity of the system as a Perhaps this has been taken a little too much to heart; I keep updating my

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-25 Thread George Bonser
On 25-Sep-97 Pete Harlan wrote: For the most part, it means non-changing. While it would be nice to fix each package with a problem, doing so always runs the risk of breaking other packages on the system. Verifying the integrity of the system as a Perhaps this has been taken a little too

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-25 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
You would think, at least in the case of bash, a bash 2.01 (or whatever) would be compiled against libc5 and put in the bo-updates tree. This orphaning of the 1.3 tree sorta ticks me off. Since the kernel fiasco (2.0.30) had already occurred for the very same reason, and since we've gone

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-25 Thread schulte
Hi, According to Civ Kevin F. Havener: You would think, at least in the case of bash, a bash 2.01 (or whatever) would be compiled against libc5 and put in the bo-updates tree. This orphaning of the 1.3 tree sorta ticks me off. Since the kernel fiasco (2.0.30) had already occurred for

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-25 Thread Civ Kevin F. Havener
Points well taken. Don't know what got into me this morning! On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, According to Civ Kevin F. Havener: You would think, at least in the case of bash, a bash 2.01 (or whatever) would be compiled against libc5 and put in the bo-updates tree.

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Lawrence
nearly impossible to have both libc5 libc6 version of the same package unless everyone have 2 (1 libc5, 1 libc6) systems. Udjat the BitMeister... wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: you can always download and install newer packages from hamm.

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: nearly impossible to have both libc5 libc6 version of the same package unless everyone have 2 (1 libc5, 1 libc6) systems. Hmmm, I seem to have both libc4 and libc5 on my 1.3.1. dpkg -l libc* shows: ii libc4 4.6.27-15 The Linux C library

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: nearly impossible to have both libc5 libc6 version of the same package unless everyone have 2 (1 libc5, 1 libc6) systems. Hmmm, I seem to have both libc4 and libc5 on my 1.3.1. dpkg -l libc* shows: ii

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, No, you can have libc4, libc5, and libc6 on the machine simultaneously. These are just run time shared libraries, and do not interfere with each other. There should be only one -dev package at one time. Do not remove libc4 until you are sure there is not program on your

RE: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread George Bonser
On 23-Sep-97 Lukas Eppler wrote: Hi, Please tell me: Does stable mean not-changing or not-segfaulting? I do not think stable was ment to be static. It was ment to mean tested and known to work on a good many systems and even probably yours while unstable means that it might or might not work

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
I guess this confuses me even more! Are libc4, libc5 and libc6 completely independent of each other, or are they versions of something which began as libc. In either case, why would one want to compile for more than one at a time? I take it they are neither upward nor downward compatible. On

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Lawrence
There is no conflict to use libc4/5/6 dynamic libraries, though you can only have one libc-dev. Bob Nielsen wrote: I guess this confuses me even more! Are libc4, libc5 and libc6 completely independent of each other, or are they versions of something which began as libc. In either case, why

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Lawrence
no, I am talking about libc?-dev? you can only have one libc?-dev in your system. Bob Nielsen wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: nearly impossible to have both libc5 libc6 version of the same package unless everyone have 2 (1 libc5, 1 libc6) systems. Hmmm, I seem to have

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread jdassen
On Sep 23, Bob Nielsen wrote I guess this confuses me even more! Are libc4, libc5 and libc6 completely independent of each other, or are they versions of something which began as libc. They are somewhat independent: libc4 is the Linux C library for use with the a.out format of binaries.

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-24 Thread Brian White
Please tell me: Does stable mean not-changing or not-segfaulting? For the most part, it means non-changing. While it would be nice to fix each package with a problem, doing so always runs the risk of breaking other packages on the system. Verifying the integrity of the system as a whole is far

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-23 Thread Lawrence
Lukas Eppler wrote: Hi, Please tell me: Does stable mean not-changing or not-segfaulting? Stable was not changing for weeks. I remember times (around Debian 1.2) when stable changed when non-segfaulting upgrades came out. I liked that a lot. It gave me the feeling to have the

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-23 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Lukas Eppler wrote: Please tell me: Does stable mean not-changing or not-segfaulting? For the most part stable means non-changing. The only updates made to Debian 1.3.1 will be serious security or bug fixes, not minor changes or updates. All updated software goes into

Re: Stable means not-changing?

1997-09-23 Thread Udjat the BitMeister...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Lawrence wrote: you can always download and install newer packages from hamm. Lawrence Ahhh, not true! bo is all libc5 and hamm is libc5 libc6. I cant take the latest gimp, tripwire etc. without adding libc6 (which I don't want to do