Michelle Konzack, don't know why you are replying since the problem has been
solved. Read the thread, if you are looking for flame, flame elsewhere. By
the way, is there an option to mark this mail as a solved so others will
(hopefully)not reply to it anymore?
Hello Brad Rogers,
Am 2011-04-29 16:09:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:02:03 +0200
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Michelle,
> > What is this crap about?
> Read the thread!
"contrib" and "non-free" is nor considered as the Debian Distribution
and I can not find
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:02:03 +0200
Michelle Konzack wrote:
Hello Michelle,
> What is this crap about?
Read the thread!
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Hello sdc,
Am 2011-04-27 11:47:43, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
> Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
> progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but
> still
Now I understand. Thank you all who replied for being so helpful and taking
your time to explain this to me,
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:53:07AM -0400, Mike Viau wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote:
> >
> > I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes:
> >
> > gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation
> >
> > ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free?
>
>
> I was wondering t
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 15:50:17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > > > Non ASCII fonts with diacritical signs do not render correctly on-
> > > > screen.
> > >
> > > Do you mean characters? I'm guessing a bug report would be appreciated
> > > if
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > > Non ASCII fonts with diacritical signs do not render correctly on-
> > > screen.
> >
> > Do you mean characters? I'm guessing a bug report would be appreciated
> > if you can reproduce the issue.
>
> Yes, non ASCII characters - sorry.
...
> I'll f
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, sdc wrote:
> Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
> Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
Don't be. We don't think FSF always provides free software either: we
consider documentation as part of the softwar
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:47:43AM +0300, sdc wrote:
> Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
> Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
> progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but
> still isn't free sof
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 11:56:30 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 10:11:28, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > Thank you for the hint. I tried Liberation sans instead of Arial. It
> > is not the same.
>
> AFAIU it is not meant to be "the same" (it couldn't anyway, due to
> licensing issues)
Yep,
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 10:11:28, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> Thank you for the hint. I tried Liberation sans instead of Arial. It
> is not the same.
AFAIU it is not meant to be "the same" (it couldn't anyway, due to
licensing issues), but with the same *metrics*. If I understand this
right, it would mea
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 08:58:49, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> Some searches of the Web will reveal the complete back story. The short
> story is that the GNU Free Document License (GFDL) allows invariant
> sections in a document which violates the DFSG.
Just to clarify a bit for the archives: the fact th
Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2011 27 Apr 08:55 -0500, Mike Viau wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote:
I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes:
gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation
?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free?
I was wondering the same thing about th
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:47:43 +0300, sdc wrote:
> Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
> Debian isn't actually free software.
^^^
Uh? How is that?
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What Does Free Mean? or What do you mean by Free Software?
http://www.debia
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 09:02:38 Huang, Tao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Klistvud wrote:
> > Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a):
> >> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote:
> >> > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we
> >> > coul
* On 2011 27 Apr 08:55 -0500, Mike Viau wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote:
> >
> > I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes:
> >
> > gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation
> >
> > ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free?
>
>
> I was wondering the same thin
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0400 wrote:
>
> I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes:
>
> gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation
>
> ?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free?
I was wondering the same thing about the gcc-doc package.
>
> >On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:36, An
I ran this command on my laptop, and the returned list includes:
gdb-doc - The GNU Debugger Documentation
?Why the hell is gdb-doc not free?
Kjetil
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 06:36, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote:
>>
>> Seems a quite re
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a):
>>
>> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote:
>> >
>> > Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we
>> > could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:47:43AM CEST, sdc said:
>Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
>Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
>progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but
>still isn
My list is rather ironic, no?
$ aptitude search '~s"non-free|contrib"~i!~M'
i bluez-firmware - Firmware for
Bluetooth devices
i emacs23-common-non-dfsg - GNU Emacs shared,
architecture independent, non-DFSG i
Dne, 27. 04. 2011 12:36:03 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a):
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote:
>
> Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we
> could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time doesn't
> seem ripe for that.
But we are getting closer every ye
Andrei Popescu:
> On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:03:41, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>>
>> In short: no. Debian follows the DFSG, the FSF follows its own rules.
> ^^^
> You probably meant the Social Contract here ;)
I actually even wrote that but later on changed it to DFSG in
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:09:56, Klistvud wrote:
>
> Seems a quite reasonable policy to me. Of course, we all wish we
> could run free software ponly on our machines, but the time doesn't
> seem ripe for that.
But we are getting closer every year:
$ aptitude search '~s"non-free|contrib"~i!~M'
i fi
On Mi, 27 apr 11, 12:03:41, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>
> In short: no. Debian follows the DFSG, the FSF follows its own rules.
^^^
You probably meant the Social Contract here ;)
Regards,
Andrei
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On Mi, 27 apr 11, 11:47:43, sdc wrote:
> My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software
> hosted on it's servers? Don't they want to follow the FSF word?
Read the Social Contract, especially points 4. and 5.
http://www.debian.org/social_contract
Regards,
Andrei
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Dne, 27. 04. 2011 10:47:43 je sdc napisal(a):
Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see
that
Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a
big
progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel)
but
still isn't free software b
sdc:
>
> My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software
> hosted on it's servers?
Because Debian currently thinks keeping proprietary packages serves
their users better than removing the "offending" packages. Officially,
proprietary packages aren't part of Debian anywa
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