Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-08 Thread John Foster
Michael B Allen wrote: On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: Testing might be the release level you are looking for... (I found Stable to be just a tad too old for my tastes as a desktop) Good thing I'm running a headless Internet server :) Mike I have 2 pieces of

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:18:08AM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: [...] | How is support for UTF-8 locales? I just realized that I forgot to answer this question. I've been using 'en_US.UTF-8' as my locale for some time now. Many applications handle it very well, though some don't. Particularly

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Michael B Allen
This was very useful information Derrick. The text mode support for querying, updating, and particularly installing packages with apt-* and dpkg is indeed far superior to rpm. It was very easy to install postfix-tls (of course configuration appears to be another issue entirely :) Ok. I am well on

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Nano Nano
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:06:18PM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: This was very useful information Derrick. The text mode support for querying, updating, and particularly installing packages with apt-* and dpkg is indeed far superior to rpm. It was very easy to install postfix-tls (of course

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Brad Sims
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: Personally I never used their services anyway so I could care less. I still use RH 7.3 on all my Linux machines (quite a few). The problem I'm faced with now is not a feeling of abandonment but finding a boring, stable, consistent

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: Testing might be the release level you are looking for... (I found Stable to be just a tad too old for my tastes as a desktop) Good thing I'm running a headless Internet server :) Mike -- A program should be written to model the

RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
Hello, I just got a linode UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I update a package I have to get the source from their latest packages and

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Michael B Allen wrote: Hello, I just got a linode UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I update a package I have to get the source from their

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:18:08AM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: | Hello, | | I just got a linode UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 | 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro | for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I |

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Ter, 2004-01-06 s 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I update a package I have to get the source from their latest packages and rebuild. So I thought I'd try debian

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Em Ter, 2004-01-06 às 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade to GLibC 2.4 when you upgrade to testing in order to get Gnome 2. There's

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Ter, 2004-01-06 s 16:16, Colin Watson escreveu: On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimares Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade to GLibC 2.4 when you upgrade to testing in order to get Gnome 2. There's no such thing as glibc

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael B Allen wrote: So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more consistent. Is this true? Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. How is support for UTF-8 locales? Etc. What surprises can a RH user expect? I'm a former RedHat user too (changed back in

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
Back when I used RedHat I always found it to be a pain the way you have to manually track down, and rebuild, package depedencies. | So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more consistent. | Is this true? Debian includes all of its packages in one place, and automatically builds

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread ben_foley
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Em Ter, 2004-01-06 ?s 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade to GLibC

Re: Creating Dummy .debs (Was: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie)

2004-01-06 Thread Jacob S.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:14:09 -0500 (EST) Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: big snip If I use debian it sounds like using custom packages is more difficult. I'll have to create a file with equivs-contol and then edit it. That's not so bad but knowing what to put in it bothers me. That's

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: What surprises can a RH user expect? I guess the biggest hurdles would be the text-mode, no-detection installer (do a system inventory first) and the fact that stable is obsolete, so one is almost forced to upgrade to

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:14:09PM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: | Back when I used RedHat I always found it to be a pain the way you | have to manually track down, and rebuild, package depedencies. | | | So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more consistent. | | Is this true? | |

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: | On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimares Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: | Em Ter, 2004-01-06 s 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: | What surprises can a RH user expect? | the fact that stable is | obsolete, so one