Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Apr 2014 at 22:37:47 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: Brian wrote: And your printer model is? It's in an earlier post in this thread: HP Laserjet P2015DN. There is a ppd in Current Debian stable package hpijs-ppds, but it doesn't support 1200 dpi. See earlier post. More here;

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-20 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Brian wrote: There is a Generic Postscript Printer PPD which I use with a 2200DN. It does 1200x1200. I'm not sure the difference between that and 600x600 is at all obvious. I my experience the difference is vast when dithering grey tones. Anyway, if you can't find a ppd which

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 20 Apr 2014 at 15:04:42 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: Brian wrote: There is a Generic Postscript Printer PPD which I use with a 2200DN. It does 1200x1200. I'm not sure the difference between that and 600x600 is at all obvious. I my experience the difference is vast when

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 19 April 2014 00:13:24 wobbly-hs wrote: On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:39:31 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 18 April 2014 18:56:55 wobbly-hs wrote: Lisi Reisz asked: .. Thanks. Have you said which printer? If so, I have missed it. It is likely to be

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
HI there wobbly-hs wrote: hp1320n laser hplip connection to: HP LaserJet 1320 series Postscript (recommended) postscript driver But shock / amazement!.. hpijs does work - I thought I'd tried it already but maybe I'd copied the ppd or something, this time a clean ppd seems to work (but

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-18, wobbly-hs wob...@happysheep.me.uk wrote: But shock / amazement!.. hpijs does work - I thought I'd tried it already but maybe I'd copied the ppd or something, this time a clean ppd seems to work (but only runs at 600 dpi rather than 1200) A known limitation, it seems.

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Curt wrote: A known limitation, it seems. http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1320 This site is slow and PPDs keep disappearing. If you do find a PPD that works, put it on your website, so people can find it using a web search. (I wanted to view the discussion

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Apr 2014 at 17:14:41 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: Curt wrote: A known limitation, it seems. http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1320 This site is slow and PPDs keep disappearing. If you do find a PPD that works, put it on your website, so people can find

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Brian wrote: What is lacking in the range of PPDs offered by Debian that one has to go searching in corners of the web to find one? AFAIK Debian doesn't provide a PPD for my printer. Debian used to, but that is a long time ago. Vr.Gr, Rob -- Trans-Pacific Partnership is evil;

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Apr 2014 at 21:39:31 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: Brian wrote: What is lacking in the range of PPDs offered by Debian that one has to go searching in corners of the web to find one? AFAIK Debian doesn't provide a PPD for my printer. Debian used to, but that is a long time

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Brian wrote: And your printer model is? It's in an earlier post in this thread: HP Laserjet P2015DN. There is a ppd in Current Debian stable package hpijs-ppds, but it doesn't support 1200 dpi. See earlier post. More here; http://www.sput.nl/software/hp2015dn.html#cups

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 10:52 +0100, wobbly-hs wrote: Bug#656640 shows a fix has been made but not moved downstream to stable. Debian isn't my favorite distro, I prefer another one that does follow (software developers) upstream. However, a distro like Debian and the distro I more often use, have

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 18 Apr 2014 at 10:52:14 +0100, wobbly-hs wrote: Can anyone clarify the policy for when upstream fixes completed in testing come down to stable. From https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases Even stable is updated once in a while. Those updates are called Point

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread wobbly-hs
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:26:55 +020, Ralf Mardorf wrote Don't rely on the policy of a distro, DIY sometimes will fix issues faster My reason for using Debian stable is because I have spent too much time in the past fixing things myself / getting help etc. I've used Fedora for many years, then

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:41 PM, wobbly-hs wob...@happysheep.me.uk wrote: If Debian stable can't provide a reliable desktop long term, then I appear to have reached the end of the Linux line. What to do? People who want more stability than Debian offers usually go to Red Hat. Or at least,

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 18 April 2014 12:41:25 wobbly-hs wrote: I can invest time in set-up if I can then leave things to keep working. But the tinkerers keep breaking things! If Debian stable can't provide a reliable desktop long term, I find that Debian Stable does provide a reliable desktop long term.

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Brian
On Fri 18 Apr 2014 at 12:41:25 +0100, wobbly-hs wrote: If Debian stable can't provide a reliable desktop long term, then I appear to have reached the end of the Linux line. What to do? Cross my fingers and hope in the benevolence of Mr Shuttleworth's Ubuntu LTS to keep the upstream from

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 12:41 +0100, wobbly-hs wrote: Or go fully proprietary and join the masses giving up a bit of security and control? Then you might get rid of the trouble you experience now, but you likely will run into hundreds of other issues. I prefer a few issues for free as in beer,

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread wobbly-hs
Thanks all for your taking the time to comment on my questions Brian pointed to the new backport 1.9.63-1~bpo70+1: amd64 This looks very much like the same thing I'd produced as a private backport which I installed: python-cups_1.9.63-1~bpo70+1_amd64.deb Lisi Reisz asked: It would be

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 18 apr 14, 10:52:14, wobbly-hs wrote: My question is seeking to understand the criteria on which a fix is moved down to stable. I think it is likely if the problem were not that printing doesn't work but that web servers don't work, it would be fixed in stable overnight. So why is

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 18 April 2014 18:56:55 wobbly-hs wrote: Lisi Reisz asked: It would be interesting to know what your current problem is.  You only vaguely mention that it is something to do with printing. So to answer that, following a routine install of Wheezy xfce edition, other programs were

Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

2014-04-18 Thread wobbly-hs
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 22:39:31 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 18 April 2014 18:56:55 wobbly-hs wrote: Lisi Reisz asked: .. Thanks. Have you said which printer? If so, I have missed it. It is likely to be relevant. I have absolutely no problems with my Samsung,