Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-17 Thread C.J.LAWSON
I agree with you the man is not a Titan ... I once read somewhere '.. On no account should anything [or person] be worshiped, be revered or be venerated. However if it is a thing done with all the skill of a master craftsman [or is a master craftsman ] it [they] should be emphatically respected

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-17 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Please drop personal attacks, especially vapid ones, from the lists. Supported!! -J. === In any war, the first casualty is the truth.

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-15 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Tamas Papp wrote: I don't think 'debian-flame' would be quite appropriate. How about debian-discussion, or debian-advocacy or something? It's a good idea, flame was just a thought (after the Hungarian list linux-flame). The name debian-discussion would be quite

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Orn == Orn E Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Orn Look whose talking... the King of Geek world, as the magazines so Orn well describe it :-) Orn You want to continue to be a geek, be my guest :-) Hmm. Those terms are generally used by the intellectually challenged. I shall make a

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Orn == Orn E Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Orn Well, like it or not... your votes are silly. And that's Orn probably why Linux people are so often described as geeks. If Orn you don't like it, then you should try be non-geek like... but Orn since you do like, accept being called a geek.

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Ossama Othman
Manoj wrote: Hmm. Those terms are generally used by the intellectually challenged. I shall make a note your affliction, and I offer you my sympathies. I shall also attempt to down grade any communication to you to words of one syllable, so that you may actually understand the

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Orn == Orn E Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Orn Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Manoj Srivastava: Frankly, most of us have sense enough not to tell people how their vbotes are wrong. It is one thing to campaign for a candidate, and urge and suggest where to cast ones vote, and it is quite

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Jens Lisner
Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 10-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating! howard hughes 351237 4.09 vehbi koc

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Tamas Papp
This is getting to be a bit offtopic. Some linux lists have a flame counterpart specifically for these issues, i.e. the ones that are not technical. Couldn't we start a debian-flame list for these debates? The people who are interested in these could sign up for that. jabberwock ###By lack

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Britton
Voting for Linus Tolrvalds is not a good idea. The man is not a Titan, in any sense of the word... even less than Bill Gates. Making such silly votes, is sure to disrubt the balance and help put Bill Gates up on the list, or is *that* your intent? to make your favourite maggot

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Britton
I don't think 'debian-flame' would be quite appropriate. How about debian-discussion, or debian-advocacy or something? Britton Kerin __ GNU GPL: The Source will be with you... always. On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Tamas Papp wrote: This is getting to be a bit offtopic. Some linux lists have a flame

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-14 Thread Tamas Papp
I don't think 'debian-flame' would be quite appropriate. How about debian-discussion, or debian-advocacy or something? It's a good idea, flame was just a thought (after the Hungarian list linux-flame). The name debian-discussion would be quite appropriate for the topics that I mentioned. So,

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
It wasn't until I saw the post -voting list that I realized that I'd heard about this before. Right After I saw Paul Atreides listed . . . There's a government, Turkey I think, that has an organized effort to stuff the ballot on these things. -- These opinions will not be those of ISU

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Oh wow, is Paul Atreides an actual world leader? I voted for him too--in my case because he's the primary character of Frank Herbert's Dune, in which he becomes emporer of the known universe. Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: It wasn't until I saw the post -voting list that I realized that I'd

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Tamas Papp
Oh wow, is Paul Atreides an actual world leader? I voted for him too--in my case because he's the primary character of Frank Herbert's Dune, in which he becomes emporer of the known universe. But later on he becomes a wormlike creature so he is in a different category :-) Sorry. jabberwock

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Manoj Srivastava: anal jokes? hots? What kind of deranged reality is this coming from? Look whose talking... the King of Geek world, as the magazines so well describe it :-) You want to continue to be a geek, be my guest :-)

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Manoj Srivastava: Frankly, most of us have sense enough not to tell people how their vbotes are wrong. It is one thing to campaign for a candidate, and urge and suggest where to cast ones vote, and it is quite another to say your votes are silly and must be

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: Yes, he is. I don't think that many of the voters take seriously what they're doing. :-) If the would, Bill Gates wouldn't get so many votes... You'd be surprised how many Bill Gates fans are out there. And then I mean _true_ fans.

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Manoj Srivastava: Frankly, most of us have sense enough not to tell people how their vbotes are wrong. It is one thing to campaign for a candidate, and urge and suggest where to cast ones vote, and it is quite another to say your votes are silly and must be

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Orn E. Hansen wrote: : : Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Manoj Srivastava: : :anal jokes? hots? What kind of deranged reality is this : coming from? : : Look whose talking... the King of Geek world, as the magazines so : well describe it :-) : : You want to

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 10:03:53PM +0200, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: Yes, he is. I don't think that many of the voters take seriously what they're doing. :-) If the would, Bill Gates wouldn't get so many votes... You'd be surprised how many Bill

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Britton
Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating! howard hughes 351237 4.09 vehbi koc 350473 4.08 steve jobs 336439 3.92 murat arslan 205791

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Marc Lepage
Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating! howard hughes 351237 4.09 vehbi koc 350473 4.08 steve jobs 336439 3.92 murat arslan 205791

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Art Lemasters
Gee, folks...could've left the URL of the voting page intact, at least. Here it is again. The category concerns the greatest builders and most influential business leaders. I'm sure that LINUX will be such an influence--and very soon. We also tend to give credit for such accomplishments to

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 11-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: [snip] I consider such voting as meaningless, unimportant and irrational. If it can serve to push Linux forward, it has at least one good effect. You say that you don't take this seriously, but non the less you expect to gain something by your

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 12-Apr-98 skrifar Britton: I am not ashamed to admit that I think Linus and the system and philosophy he has come to represent are extremely important. Linux is more than a great OS, it's the largest and most advanced technological achievment of a group of volunteers in all of

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Tamas Papp
When I checked the current list Paul Atreides was in the middle. Isn't that a character from Dune? Yes, he is. I don't think that many of the voters take seriously what they're doing. :-) jabberwock ###By lack of understanding they remained sane. (George Orwell)### -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 10:41:39AM -0600, Tamas Papp wrote: When I checked the current list Paul Atreides was in the middle. Isn't that a character from Dune? Yes, he is. I don't think that many of the voters take seriously what they're doing. :-) If the would, Bill Gates wouldn't get so

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Orn == Orn E Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Orn Voting for Linus Tolrvalds is not a good idea. The man is not a Orn Titan, in any sense of the word... even less than Bill Gates. Says who? Who died and made you god? Orn Making such silly votes, is sure to disrubt the balance and

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Orn == Orn E Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Orn We have to take some responsibility for the world we live in. It Orn may not be to our liking, but we live in it... Frankly, most of us have sense enough not to tell people how their vbotes are wrong. It is one thing to campaign for

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-11 Thread Orn E. Hansen
Þann 10-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating! howard hughes 351237 4.09 vehbi koc 350473 4.08 steve jobs

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-11 Thread Paul Huygen
Marcus Brinkmann wrote (in a message that I lost): In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 11 Apr 1998 12:05:59 +0200. Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating!

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 03:56:30PM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: Marcus Brinkmann wrote (in a message that I lost): and asked to vote for Linux Thorvalds. Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded: Voting for Linus Tolrvalds is not a good idea. The man is not a Titan, in any sense of

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 12:05:59PM +0200, Orn E. Hansen wrote: Þann 10-Apr-98 skrifar Marcus Brinkmann: Total Percent richard rogers 636494 7.42 henry ford 555916 6.48 douglas macarthur 474770 5.53 bill gates 468605 5.46 --- We can beat this poor rating!

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century

1998-04-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:51:11AM +0200, LOPARIC Marko wrote: - The DALnet #Linux has started a movement to get Linus Torvalds voted as Man of the Century. Their idea is to get a massive number of votes for Linus, which would at least get the attention of Linux if nothign