Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:33:30PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: to noun v. 1. To use a word as a noun rather than its standard grammatical role. Most often applied to verbs and adjectives. When a word is used this way, the implied meaning is someone or something filling the role of

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 2008 December 17 15:11:39 Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 02:33:30PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: to noun v. 1. To use a word as a noun rather than its standard grammatical role. Most often applied to verbs and adjectives. When a word is used this way,

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-15 Thread Arc Roca
--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: From: Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz Subject: Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 6:32 AM On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:02:14AM -0600, Boyd

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:02:14AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disconnect I don't know how long the noun usage has been around, but I remember hearing it as a child (20 years ago), so I'd say you just need to update your dictionary. (1913 Websters,

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Chris Bannister wrote: Yeah, apparently awful originally meant full of awe This is the perfect time for a Terry Pratchett quote: Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder. Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels. Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. Elves are glamorous. They project

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-14 Thread Napoleon
Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:02:14AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disconnect I don't know how long the noun usage has been around, but I remember hearing it as a child (20 years ago), so I'd say you just need to update your

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/14/08 05:32, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:02:14AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disconnect I don't know how long the noun usage has been around, but I remember hearing it as a child (20 years ago), so I'd say you just need to

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 2008 December 14 05:32:16 Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:02:14AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disconnect I don't know how long the noun usage has been around, but I remember hearing it as a child (20 years ago), so I'd say you

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 07:10:52AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/11/08 02:02, Adrian Chapela wrote: Ron Johnson escribi?: On 12/10/08 20:09, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-12 Thread Arc Roca
I think that the disconnect here is when one compares two different types of computer based only on a comparision of their computational power. Sure, the 1980-vintage 1.6 MIPS machine only had 6 MB ram (and a...@tosh:~$ apt-cache show

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2008 December 12 09:08:15 Arc Roca wrote: I think that the disconnect here is when one compares two different Disconnect Dis`con*nect, v. t. [imp. p. p. Disconnected; p. pr. vb. n. Disconnecting.] To dissolve the union or

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/12/08 10:02, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: [snip] Also, particularly where I come from (U.S.; specifically The South), English speakers don't follow the formal rules of grammar well. But at least we know that gals aren't guys -- or sheep -- and that counts for a whole lot!

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-11 Thread Adrian Chapela
Ron Johnson escribió: On 12/10/08 20:09, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run application software as well as RDBMSs. OK, we're talking about two different things. Translating that

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/11/08 02:02, Adrian Chapela wrote: Ron Johnson escribió: On 12/10/08 20:09, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run application software as well as RDBMSs. OK, we're talking about

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-11 Thread Adrian Chapela
Ron Johnson escribió: On 12/11/08 02:02, Adrian Chapela wrote: Ron Johnson escribió: On 12/10/08 20:09, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run application software as well as RDBMSs.

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-11 Thread kj
Ron Johnson wrote: The grumpy geezer in me says you make a dedicated DB server only if your hardware and/or OS isn't up to snuff, or your RDBMS is a horrible pig, and that any modern desktop PC should have enough juice to support an RDBMS, dozens applications and 10,000 OLTP users. Like I

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread Adrian Chapela
Ron Johnson escribió: On 12/09/08 03:49, kj wrote: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread kj
Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/09/08 03:49, kj wrote: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/10/08 05:34, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 12/09/08 03:49, kj wrote: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread kj
Ron Johnson wrote: If the box is a dedicated DB server, then there aren't (shouldn't be) any other applications running other than the essentials. As a large systems developer, this (pervasive) attitude really distresses me. Why? Maybe I should have said presumably, there won't be much

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/10/08 10:20, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: If the box is a dedicated DB server, then there aren't (shouldn't be) any other applications running other than the essentials. As a large systems developer, this (pervasive) attitude really distresses me. Why? Maybe I should have said

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread kj
Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run application software as well as RDBMSs. OK, we're talking about two different things. Translating that into modern times, a Linux box *should* be able to

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/10/08 20:09, kj wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Large systems (meaning mainframes and traditional minicomputers running legacy OSs) are never dedicated. They run application software as well as RDBMSs. OK, we're talking about two different things. Translating that into modern times, a

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-09 Thread Adrian Chapela
Anoop Aryal escribió: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 13:18 +, kj wrote: Adrian Chapela wrote: I am thinking on a new server for my mision critical database server. This server will have Debian OS and MySQL database server. Requisites: 2 CPU (minimun), 32 GB RAM, 2 TB for mysql data files

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-09 Thread kj
Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to address all the memory, but you're still stuck with

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-09 Thread Adrian Chapela
kj escribió: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to address all the memory, but you're

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-09 Thread kj
Adrian Chapela wrote: kj escribió: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to address all the

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/09/08 03:49, kj wrote: Anoop Aryal wrote: Just curious, how big of a difference (indeed, what difference) does 64bit make? It will make all the difference on a box with 16GB. On a 32bit machine, you can use a PAE enabled kernel to allow the operating system to address all the

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-08 Thread kj
Adrian Chapela wrote: I am thinking on a new server for my mision critical database server. This server will have Debian OS and MySQL database server. Requisites: 2 CPU (minimun), 32 GB RAM, 2 TB for mysql data files on SAS Hard Disks, 500 GB for mysql binlog + system on SAS Hard Disks, RAID

Re: [OT] Server for Debian + MySQL

2008-12-08 Thread Anoop Aryal
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 13:18 +, kj wrote: Adrian Chapela wrote: I am thinking on a new server for my mision critical database server. This server will have Debian OS and MySQL database server. Requisites: 2 CPU (minimun), 32 GB RAM, 2 TB for mysql data files on SAS Hard Disks, 500