Re: Can't get started

2020-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Jun 2020 at 09:34:46 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 30 mai 20, 16:09:46, David Wright wrote: > > > > My only worry was whether systemd-networkd gives way gracefully > > to a configured ifupdown, or fights it like systemd-timesyncd vs ntp. > > systemd-networkd is not enabled

Re: Can't get started

2020-06-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 mai 20, 16:09:46, David Wright wrote: > > My only worry was whether systemd-networkd gives way gracefully > to a configured ifupdown, or fights it like systemd-timesyncd vs ntp. systemd-networkd is not enabled nor configured by default in buster. > > > I've yet to see any virtue in

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-30 Thread David Wright
On Sat 30 May 2020 at 08:27:14 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 29 mai 20, 14:51:23, David Wright wrote: > > > > I'm not sure which default you mean. > > The defaults of the user-oriented network managers, like Network Manager > and Wicd. They provide a much friendlier experience for

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 29 mai 20, 14:51:23, David Wright wrote: > > I'm not sure which default you mean. The defaults of the user-oriented network managers, like Network Manager and Wicd. They provide a much friendlier experience for laptops that are carried around and are frequently connected to different

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 May 2020 at 20:00:23 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > Actually I use static addresses on all devices on my wifi. OK, then it should be easy for you to meld the static addressing part with the wireless lines. But we seem to be still guessing about other aspects of your system, like

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 May 2020 at 18:53:10 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 29 mai 20, 09:29:26, David Wright wrote: > > > > In the second half, I wasn't doubting that static would technically > > function, but that almost any user would be unsatisfied by a tablet > > or laptop with a statically

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 29 mai 20, 09:29:26, David Wright wrote: > > In the second half, I wasn't doubting that static would technically > function, but that almost any user would be unsatisfied by a tablet > or laptop with a statically configured wifi connection. It "works" > about as well as locking one's OAP

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread David Wright
On Fri 29 May 2020 at 11:36:03 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 28 mai 20, 09:00:52, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 28 May 2020 at 12:40:44 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > > > > > I will consider trying DHCP instead of static to see if it makes a > > > difference. > > > > I have no

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 28 mai 20, 09:00:52, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 28 May 2020 at 12:40:44 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > > > I will consider trying DHCP instead of static to see if it makes a > > difference. > > I have no experience of setting up wifi statically—I don't see how > this would work

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 28 mai 20, 07:02:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: > Use the non-free netinstall ISO Fully agreed. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 28 mai 20, 12:40:44, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Thank you for your polite response. The wifi access point is open so > it does not use a password. There was a bug where the installer wouldn't connect to open networks. It's probably solved in the meantime, but probably worth a try

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 May 2020 at 21:54:11 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > On May 28, 2020, 7:00 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 28 May 2020 at 12:40:44 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> On May 27, 2020, 7:50 PM, David Wright wrote: > >> > On Thu 28 May 2020 at 00:15:50 (+), Matthew Campbell

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:58:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The netinst CD is for installation from the network. It is > > purposefully stripped down. > > > > It does not contain non-free firmware, including the firmware > > that must be loaded on some Intel wifi

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:58:36AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > The netinst CD is for installation from the network. It is > purposefully stripped down. > > It does not contain non-free firmware, including the firmware > that must be loaded on some Intel wifi devices to get them to > work. > > You

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread Peter Ehlert
Use the non-free netinstall ISO On May 28, 2020 6:58:54 AM Dan Ritter wrote: Matthew Campbell wrote: Thank you for your polite response. The wifi access point is open so it does not use a password. I don't know if the netinst CD includes the wpasupplicant package. ip addr is saying that

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 May 2020 at 12:40:44 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > On May 27, 2020, 7:50 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 28 May 2020 at 00:15:50 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> The netinst CD leaves a lot to be desired. I had to download a nonfree > >> wifi firmware package with my tablet

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-28 Thread Dan Ritter
Matthew Campbell wrote: > Thank you for your polite response. The wifi access point is open so it does > not use a password. I don't know if the netinst CD includes the wpasupplicant > package. ip addr is saying that Linux cannot detect a signal from the wifi > router. I will consider trying

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-27 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-05-27 21:33, David Christensen wrote:     debian-10.4.0-arm64-xfce-CD-1.iso Correction: debian-10.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso David

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-27 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-05-27 17:15, Matthew Campbell wrote: The netinst CD leaves a lot to be desired. I had to download a nonfree wifi firmware package with my tablet and install it just to get the Linux system on the laptop to recognize the wifi adapter. I still can't get the wifi to work which makes

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-27 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 May 2020 at 00:15:50 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote: > The netinst CD leaves a lot to be desired. I had to download a nonfree wifi > firmware package with my tablet and install it just to get the Linux system > on the laptop to recognize the wifi adapter. I still can't get the wifi to

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-27 Thread Peter Ehlert
paragraphs, try them. sorry but I can't follow you, you ave a number of issues and complaints mixed together On 5/27/20 5:15 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: The netinst CD leaves a lot to be desired. I had to download a nonfree wifi firmware package with my tablet and install it just to get the