On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:28:29AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
golinux wrote:
Yes, Refracta is pure unmodified Debian and uses the Debian repos! As
suggested, please join the forums and contribute expertise if possible.
And report back! Those of us who are still waiting and seeing,
John Hasler writes:
tornow writes:
I am not a big fan of such workarounds. It doesn't seem to make sense
to work against Debian all the time. If one doesn't want systemd,
then
the solution is to leave. I mean: If you use Debian, then you use it
cause it is rock solid, aka stable.
Except
Refracta IS Debian, but since I'm not Debian, I can't call it that. It's
debian jessie with sysvinit instead of systemd. The jessie-based version
of refracta was created in the following manner -
Standard-system install of wheezy.
Pinned *systemd* to -1
dist-upgrade to jessie
added some packages
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On 10/11/2014 11:49 PM, fsmithred wrote:
It seems to be working, so far, but as mentioned, it may break at some
point with upgrades. Others can try the same thing and share their
experiences. If you're willing to accept libsystemd0, then I think
Le 10.11.2014 13:49, fsmithred a écrit :
Pinned dbus and libpulse0 to wheezy versions and util-linux to the
last
jessie version that didn't need libsystemd0.
It seems to be working, so far, but as mentioned, it may break at
some
point with upgrades.
I wonder if there is some compilation
Are you sure that systemd libraries are required to install the server
software that you want? I just tried 'aptitude -s install apache2 php5
mysql-server' on a jessie build with no systemd, dbus, libpulse0 or xorg,
and it didn't complain.
Here's an earlier iso I made of jessie with no systemd
One of the members of the refracta team is experimenting with repackaging
stuff after removing the dependency on systemd libs. I think tornow
provided the link to these packages in another post on this thread. This
might be a viable option for some people, but it needs more testing than
the few of
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home
page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
Guess what? They have forum too. I bet they are avid to answer questions
such
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing.
golinux wrote:
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to
Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home
page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319 it is
described
as (for testing, without libsystemd0, it's
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote:
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home
page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
Guess what? They have
On 11/09/2014 11:38 AM, tor...@riseup.net wrote:
Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home
page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3t=118319 it is
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 18:19:21 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote:
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home
tornow writes:
I am not a big fan of such workarounds. It doesn't seem to make sense
to work against Debian all the time. If one doesn't want systemd, then
the solution is to leave. I mean: If you use Debian, then you use it
cause it is rock solid, aka stable.
Except that many are concerned
On 2014-11-09, tor...@riseup.net tor...@riseup.net wrote:
Are there any other forks?
Having been the long time guinea pig i can give you my opinion.
It is so close to debian that i wouldn't even call it a distribution,
rather a respin, a configured version of Debian (with a few scripts,
one
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
Like pointed out above: Those are my opinions, nothing official from
refracta.
I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative distros:
I don't mean consider them _instead_ of Refracta, I mean
On Sun, 11/9/14, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:00 PM
I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative
distros:
I don't mean consider them _instead_
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 12:19 PM
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +,
Brian wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote
On Sun, 11/9/14, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:
Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: dmcgarr...@optonline.net
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:58 PM
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote:
Please do little research before opening mouth and inserting foot.
There is no comparison between Refracta and bloated offerings like
Ubuntu or Mint. In fact, it is downright insulting. In case you
missed it, Refracta is a respin NOT
On Sun, 11/9/14, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 4:03 PM
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote:
Please do little research before opening mouth
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:27:56 +, Brian wrote:
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 18:19:21 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote:
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I just encountered a link about refracta.
Refracta would appear
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 9:10 PM
[snip]
From what I've heard since I made the original post, it turns out to be
a
lot closer to Debian
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