Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-29 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 29 September 2025 01:21:08 pm Felix Miata wrote: > mick.crane composed on 2025-09-29 18:07 (UTC+0100): > > > I never really knew what this meant but liked the sound of it. > > > > "32 bit extensions and a graphical shell Windoze 95 > > [on top of] a 16 bit patch msdos > > to an 8 b

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 9/29/25 9:19 AM, Andy Smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 05:22:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: My underlying question was explicitly the character of the installed processor. When you ask… On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 07:00:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: How do I find if the installed

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 05:26:54AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Underlying my question was the assumption that when a processor was referred to as 32 or 64 bit, it was a reference to the width of the data bus. Not really, which is why this was a weird/misleading/confusing question. A "bus" is

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 9/28/25 8:12 AM, Robert Heller wrote: At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:45:56 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: On 9/28/25 7:23 AM, Robert Heller wrote: At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. I need to know the data

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Virgo Pärna
On 28.09.2025 16:12, Robert Heller wrote: But the results of uname is difinitive. A 64-bit kernel won't run on a 32-bit CPU, although a 32-bit kernel will run on a 64-bit processor. So if the *kernel* is 64-bit, the processor is 64-bit. It is possible to have both 32-bit and 64-bit user-mode pro

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 16:15:30 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? > > Others replied already. > > > How do I discover the CPU's bus width? > > That's probably not what you want to know. > My crystal ball tells me that you probably want to know w

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Stone composed on 2025-09-28 14:42 (UTC-0400): > On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 14:30:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>Why download or burn anything before knowing whether it could possibly suit >>your >>needs? > Because downloading a minimal install image will take a heck of a lot > less time

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 10:05 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. > I need to know the data bus width. > > I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . This is not reliable because a user can edit the file. See b

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 02:30:47PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Why download or burn anything before knowing whether it could possibly suit your needs? Because downloading a minimal install image will take a heck of a lot less time and be a heck of a lot more reliable than coming up with silly w

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Stone composed on 2025-09-28 14:18 (UTC-0400): > On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 12:40:19 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>unbootable installed OS != not bootable/installable > What's your point? If you boot a debian install image you'll find out > whether debian will run on it with absolutely no ne

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Felix Miata
Greg composed on 2025-09-28 16:17 (UTC): > Felix Miata wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 15:25:49 -, Greg wrote: dpkg --print-architecture (userland) >>> This is the best answer, also >>>dpkg --print-foreign-architectures >>> to identify whether multiarch is configured. >> Best on

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 10:01:05AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: If it's an IBM compatible PC or laptop, boot into BIOS setup. Odds are, if you see EFI mentioned anywhere, the CPU is 64bit, but somewhere at least there will be some indicator of bus width. There were definitely 32 bit x86 machines w

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-09-28, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. >> I need to know the data bus width. >> >> I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . >> >> How do I find if

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Joe
On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. > I need to know the data bus width. > > I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? > H

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 10:01:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > # lscpu | grep mode > CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit I'm guessing THIS is what the OP really wanted. The rest is noise. (This use of this command new to me; I've never seen that particular data point before.)

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 08:23:28 -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? > > uname -a > > This will tell you the kernel version, including the bus width > (Note: it is possible to install a 32-b

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. > I need to know the data bus width. > > I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? $ uname -a Linux ant 6.16.8+deb14-amd64 #

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 9/28/25 7:23 AM, Robert Heller wrote: At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. I need to know the data bus width. I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . How do I find if the

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 9/28/25 7:12 AM, alain williams wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 07:00:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. I need to know the data bus width. I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . How do I find if

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 01:12:27PM +0100, alain williams wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 07:00:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? > > $ file /bin/true No doubt good enough for the OP who is not going to be part way through a multiarch cr

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread alain williams
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 07:29:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > How do I discover the CPU's bus width? > > > > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo Put the CPU model name into a search engine. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0)

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:00:11 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. > I need to know the data bus width. > > I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit? > H

Re: Identifying CPU and current OS

2025-09-28 Thread alain williams
On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 07:00:11AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I may resurrect an former desktop machine as a trouble shooting aid. > I need to know the data bus width. > > I know the Debian version number is stored in /etc/debian_version . > > How do I find if the installed OS is 32 or 64 bit