Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > I keep hoping that my next laptop will have a backlit > keyboard but very often the machines I choose (for > other higher-priority criteria) don't have them. > > I've also tried a few clip-on mini lights (plugged into a > spare USB socket) but many such lights come with

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-22 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, at 13:36, songbird wrote: > i've > already worn some of letters off the keys. :( but, well, i got > it on sale for about $30 so i really can't complain. For years I've used Dymo labels to replace keyboard legends. (Not the 1960s/1970s thick 3d labels, but 'printed' ones).

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-21 Thread songbird
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:30 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: >> Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been >> good. Those that had died normally did so after falling off a desk, >> which I don't really see as a manufacturing fault. >> >> But since then several

[SOLVED?] Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-21 Thread local10
Dec 19, 2023, 16:36 by to...@tuxteam.de: > Here's someone offering a patch for xserver-xorg-input-evdev: > > https://blog.guntram.de/?p=16 > > and this is someone reporting on how to build for Ubuntu: > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/321816/mouse-sometimes-doubleclicks-when-i-click-once >

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 12/20/23 1:06 PM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: I finally switched tactics last year and tried gaming mice. I thought about the way they're used. It's comparable to how much I click for emails and research related to ongoing Life.. shtuff. The main reason why I avoid gaming mice is because they

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 12/19/23, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > >> I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the >> ISS >> station or similar? > > No, nothing like that. > >> Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right >> thing is to replace

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 12/20/23 11:30 AM, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been good. Those that had died normally did so after falling off a desk, which I don't really see as a manufacturing fault. But since then several I've bought have all failed with the problem

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023, at 04:25, Charles Curley wrote: > I suggest you buy a different rodent. I bought three Logitech rodents > some years ago on sale for $10 each. All three still work quite well. Until about a year ago my experience with Logitech mice had been good. Those that had died

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread local10
Dec 20, 2023, 15:22 by noloa...@gmail.com: > And here's the bug report: <> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413502> > > I was following this bug but it didn't help me, probably because the system sees it as two single clicks that happen quickly one after another, not a double click.

[SOLVED] Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread local10
Dec 20, 2023, 14:57 by anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi: > BTW, you might be able to use working switches from your other mice as > spare parts if you want to fix one. > That's a good idea though I ended up doing what Tom had suggested:

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 2:53 PM local10 wrote: > > > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > > single click. > > > > With

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 2:53 PM local10 wrote: > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force several

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Anssi Saari
local10 writes: > It's a Logitech Trackman Marble Trackball mouse (T-BC21 model). I like > this model but for some reason they just don't seem to last as long as > they used to. Maybe they have cost reduced it so much it doesn't last as well any more. Looks like there are some other models from

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-20 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 19, 2023, Felix Miata wrote: > Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): > > > local10 wrote: > > >> I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they > >> sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within > >> 10-20ms) instead of a single

OT: Pitfalls of online purchases (Was Re: Mouse single click handling?)

2023-12-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.12.2023 23:48, Felix Miata wrote: Can you suggest any particular online source in North America that sells those switches? I had no success trying to refurb one in my invaluable Logitech Trackman Marble FX PS/2 trackball. It took 2 hours to get that tiny switch back together after

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:56:29PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and > >> reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware > >> falls in this category. > > One's time is also a finite resource. > > Yup. But

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and >> reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware >> falls in this category. > One's time is also a finite resource. Yup. But the OP seemed to have at least some time/motivation to try and workout a

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 10:43:37 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and > reduce consumption of resources, and prolonging the use of hardware > falls in this category. One's time is also a finite resource. -- Does anybody read signatures

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET) local10 wrote: > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps > there was a way to fix them instead of buying a new one every 6-12 > months. I suggest you buy a

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Felix Miata
Fred composed on 2023-12-19 18:04 (UTC-0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> invaluable Logitech Trackman >> Marble FX PS/2 trackball. Nothing like it has been manufactured since it was discontinued nearly 3 decades ago. > digikey.com and mouser.com both have microswitches and good service. It >

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Fred
On 12/19/23 11:48, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): local10 wrote: I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. This is a

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread local10
Dec 19, 2023, 18:41 by ale...@nanoid.net: > Been there done that. Cheap mice have cheap switches which fail sooner > than later. Gaming mice are more expensive, but they are rated for 10- > 20million clicks. Way more than than the cheap ones. In the long run > those gaming mice come cheaper. I

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2023-12-19 11:37 (UTC-0500): > local10 wrote: >> I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes >> generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a >> single click. > This is a very common problem with

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 08:40:56PM +0200, Alexis Grigoriou wrote: > On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 17:01 +0100, local10 wrote: > > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so.

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
On Tue, 2023-12-19 at 17:01 +0100, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail > with the same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps > there was a way to fix them instead of buying a new

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET) local10 wrote: Hello local10, > So I thought perhaps there was a way to fix them instead of buying a > new one every 6-12 months. Replace the flaky switch. If you're not happy wielding a soldering iron, get a friend to do it - assuming you know someone

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread gene heskett
On 12/19/23 10:11, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force several mouse clicks within a

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.12.2023 21:41, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 09:37:20PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms)

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread local10
Dec 19, 2023, 16:37 by to...@tuxteam.de: > Here's someone offering a patch for xserver-xorg-input-evdev: > > https://blog.guntram.de/?p=16 > > and this is someone reporting on how to build for Ubuntu: > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/321816/mouse-sometimes-doubleclicks-when-i-click-once >

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-19, wrote: > > > But at the end, that's how most (reaonably complex) hardware works :) > Surely there must be superior and inferior mice. Maybe the OP should try another brand. Or has she? Up on the ISS, I would suppose they use touch screens, as floating mice would be a novelty.

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 09:37:20PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > > single click. >

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 11:31:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail with the > > same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps there was a way to > > fix them

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 19.12.2023 20:04, local10 wrote: Hi, I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a single click. This is a very common problem with micro-switches inside computer mice, mechanical keyboards,

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > > > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > > station or similar? > > > > No, nothing like that. > > > > Why would you go down this rabbit hole

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 05:01:46PM +0100, local10 wrote: > I've been replacing them, I have 4-5 mice like that, they all fail with the > same defect after 6-12 months or so. So I thought perhaps there was a way to > fix them instead of buying a new one every 6-12 months. If you can fix the

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 10:29:33AM -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: [...] > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? [...] Bad mood, today? Cheer up -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread local10
Dec 19, 2023, 15:30 by hfollm...@itcfollmann.com: > I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? > No, nothing like that. > Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right > thing is to replace faulty hardware especially when it is

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have to ask: are you currently located at a remote location like the ISS > station or similar? Why would you go down this rabbit hole when the right > thing is to replace faulty hardware especially when it is cheap hardware? FWIW there's a case to be made that "The Right Thing" is to try and

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 04:04:19PM +0100, local10 wrote: > Hi, > > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead of a > single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to

Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 19, 2023, local10 wrote: > I have several mice that went bad with the same defect: they sometimes > generate two single clicks very quickly (say, within 10-20ms) instead > of a single click. > > With reference to the above, is there a way or setting to force > several mouse clicks within a