Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread gene heskett
On 1/9/24 03:15, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared in linux? The unixoid

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Bret Busby (12024-01-09): > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list, one (and, only one) of the applications > of version numbers as part of file descriptors, with (in the case of > VAX/VMS) up to the last seven versions of a

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bret Busby wrote: > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list But i found a premium excuse in the debian-cd and debian-live ISOs. :o) > the last seven versions of a file, being retained, was a > useful tool for software

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/1/24 16:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: The idea that we need version numbers embedded in filenames involuntarily may be "natural" to somebody. I have never seen any version other than ";1" (and ISOs which simply ignore the specs about file names). It's a

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. > Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared > in linux? The unixoid community added System Use Protocol and

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 11:38 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > .; > > Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > > IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS, have something > > similar called a GDG (or Generation Data Group). > > The principle made it into ISO 9660 specifications. > > To

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 8 Jan 2024, at 9:17, Bret Busby wrote: > But, apart from the functionality that I have not seen in any other operating > system, of using an extra file descriptor of version number, so the whole > filename would be something like > .; > (I am not sure whether that syntax is correct - I have

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bret Busby wrote: > > .; Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS, have something > similar called a GDG (or Generation Data Group). The principle made it into ISO 9660 specifications. To make this thread relevant for Debian, let's assume that somebody asked

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, at 09:17, Bret Busby wrote: > But, apart from the functionality that I have not seen in any other > operating system, of using an extra file descriptor of version number, > so the whole filename would be something like > .; IBM's MVS & its successors, most recently z/OS,

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 8/1/24 08:44, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-01-07 at 19:20, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Oh, come on! Just because