Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Nov 2023 at 11:12:03 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 23:43:34 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 23:43:34 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > > > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:24:25 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 00:20:25 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section should come from the > > same upstream series (6.1.x),

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 15:29:51 (+0100), steve wrote: > Le 18-11-2023, à 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > > > > At time of writing, that depended on package in stable

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of date. The following newer release(s) are available in

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section should come from the > same upstream series (6.1.x), and should have basically the same feature > set, with no major changes.

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-18 00:20:25 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > In any case, if a package is renamed (which

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread steve
Thanks Greg for the precise explanation. I would suggest to put it in the Debian Wiki for futur reference. Le 18-11-2023, à 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > At time of

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > > At time of writing, that depended on package in stable is called > > 'linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64' and the version of that package is > > '6.1.55-1'. This is the kernel installed

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 14:04 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > In any case, if a package is renamed (which particularly applies to > > > unstable, I don't know about

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-17 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 14:04 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-17 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > In any case, if a package is renamed (which particularly applies to > > unstable, I don't know about backports), I would expect reportbug > > to also consider the new name for a

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] > > > > But the bookworm-backports kernel is even newer. > > > > So

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > > > > > On

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread David Wright
On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > > > > On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The base

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > > > On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > > > > The base number is the same, but I would have thought that this other > > > > kernel

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > > On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > > The base number is the same, but I would have thought that this other > > > kernel might have additional patches. > > > > > > > That's why

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > The base number is the same, but I would have thought that this other > > kernel might have additional patches. > > > >> That's why I suggested ignoring the message. > > > > Then why does reportbug mention

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 08:50:50 +0100, didier gaumet wrote: > I don't know why particularly a Bullseye-backports kernel is promoted here > in a mixed stable/unstable context but perhaps (I have not tested it) you > could set check-available to 0 in /etc/reportbug.conf (1) to avoid to be > proposed a newer

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-15 10:15:35 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 15/11/2023 05:01, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:21:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > # $ wget -qO- > > > >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-15 Thread Curt
On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > The base number is the same, but I would have thought that this other > kernel might have additional patches. > >> That's why I suggested ignoring the message. > > Then why does reportbug mention the bullseye-backports kernel? > Because it kind of looks

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread didier gaumet
Le 14/11/2023 à 23:01, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : [...] Then why does reportbug mention the bullseye-backports kernel? [...] Hello, I don't know why particularly a Bullseye-backports kernel is promoted here in a mixed stable/unstable context but perhaps (I have not tested it) you could set

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/11/2023 05:01, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:21:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: # $ wget -qO- 'https://qa.debian.org/madison.php?package=emacs=on=oldstable,stable,testing,unstable,experimental=source,all,x86_64' The same request without s=... returns versions

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-14 16:34:18 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:21:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-14 23:54:31 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 14/11/2023 19:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports > > > >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:21:13PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-14 23:54:31 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 14/11/2023 19:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports > > > (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: > >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-14 23:54:31 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 14/11/2023 19:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports > > (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: > > Might it happen that you have bullseye-backports in apt sources.list?

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/11/2023 19:00, Vincent Lefevre wrote: To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: Might it happen that you have bullseye-backports in apt sources.list? apt policy apt policy linux-image-amd64

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

2023-11-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 01:00:47PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > To my surprise, reportbug asks me to use bullseye-backports > (= oldstable-backports) on my bookworm (= stable) machine: > > Your version (6.1.55-1) of linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 appears to be out of > date. > The following newer