Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-01, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > 2022-02-01 17:20 GMT+05:00, Curt : >> On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2022-02-01 17:20 GMT+05:00, Curt : > On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard >>> Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using >>> a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. >> >> BTW, for the twisted-minded

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 12:32:24AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: that's not running a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel, Why not? You have a 64bit system on top, a 32bit kernel at the bottom and whether execution of those 64bit binaries is performed directly by the CPU or via binfmt + qemu is

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard >> Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using >> a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit >

Re: CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/01/2022 12:12 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... My hardware can support either 32 or 64 bit OS. I *ONLY* use one or the other. My goal is to determine which I chose at installation. that should be somewhere in: /var/log/installer Yes but ;/ "dpkg --print-architecture"

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Montag, 31. Januar 2022 schrieb Richard Owlett: > >> 2. As superuser, how can I determine which is installed on a > >> different partition? > >>      [ My typical installation routine has been a descriptive > >> label for each root partition. But not always done ;{ ] > > > > If the superuser

Re: CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > My hardware can support either 32 or 64 bit OS. > I *ONLY* use one or the other. > My goal is to determine which I chose at installation. that should be somewhere in: /var/log/installer songbird

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard > > Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using > > a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 09:02:17PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Greg Wooledge [2022-01-31 16:45:52] wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel. No. Or at least, not that

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 21:02:17 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > Greg Wooledge [2022-01-31 16:45:52] wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit > >> userspace on a 32bit kernel. > > No. Or at

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 03:37 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit

CLARIFICATION --- Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 02:01 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 11:38:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: uname -m Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 bit release? It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. As I said in another message, you

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Technically correct, but Curt's response was good enough for Richard > > Owlett to make progress. Richard Owlett is very unlikely to be using > > a 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userspace. > > BTW, for the twisted-minded it's

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Brian
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 11:38:17 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> uname -m > > > Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 > > bit release? > > It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. > > As I said in another message, you could have a 32-bit

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 06:32:23 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > same release on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 31 Jan 2022 at 08:26:35 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:23:45AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > > >[ equivalent of /etc/debian_version would be ideal ] > > > > Depends what you mean. The

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
> >> uname -m > Are you saying that that doesn't reveal whether I've installed a 64 or a 32 > bit release? It does not. It only reveals which kernel is running. As I said in another message, you could have a 32-bit userspace with a 64-bit kernel. If that's the case, then uname -m gives you

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/31/2022 06:37 AM, Curt wrote: >> On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various >>> Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release >>> on a particular

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/31/2022 06:37 AM, Curt wrote: On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release on a particular machine. 1. From current console, how can I determine

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 03:24:51PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2022-01-31 06:32:23-0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > > same release on a particular

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2022-01-31 06:32:23-0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot > various Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the > same release on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? >

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:23:45AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > >[ equivalent of /etc/debian_version would be ideal ] > > Depends what you mean. The answer may also be "both" depending on what > you care about. E.g. many

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-31, Richard Owlett wrote: > Due to historical circumstances, I have laptops which multi-boot various > Debian releases. There be 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the same release > on a particular machine. > > 1. From current console, how can I determine which is running? > [