Re: masked service file

2021-09-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 03:55:25PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-05 16:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>* play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal > >>attacks > > > >Yes, pretty

Re: masked service file

2021-09-08 Thread Curt
On 2021-09-05, wrote: > > >> * play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal attacks > > Yes, pretty please. > Yep. Never disguise your personal attacks.

Re: masked service file

2021-09-08 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-05 16:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] * play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal attacks Yes, pretty please. Thank you, Andrew. I'm the original poster. It might help if I explain. Not

Re: masked service file

2021-09-08 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-05 16:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] * play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal attacks Yes, pretty please. Thank you, Andrew. I am the OP -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: masked service file

2021-09-05 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:56:30PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > * play the ball not the man - don't engage in disguised personal attacks Yes, pretty please. Thank you, Andrew. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: masked service file

2021-09-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 03:09:59PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:54:02PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > As a non-professional sysadmin, this "Brian person" is wondering why > > the OP's question (clearly relating to saned) is sidelined in favour > > of other concerns. > > I'm

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-03 00:21, Brian wrote: On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 00:03:08 +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2021-09-02 23:28, Brian wrote: [...] > Please go back and read your very first post. You asked three questions. > Which one has not been answered? Please understand you are talking to an idiot,

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 00:03:08 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-02 23:28, Brian wrote: [...] > > Please go back and read your very first post. You asked three questions. > > Which one has not been answered? > > Please understand you are talking to an idiot, you have to say things slowly >

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-02 23:28, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 Sep 2021 at 21:06:59 +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2021-09-02 17:57, Brian wrote: > Regarding Greg Wooledge's exhortations to provide information about > an issue: You were asked explicity to provide some; you never did. > As it happens, I do not

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Sep 2021 at 21:06:59 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-02 17:57, Brian wrote: > > > Regarding Greg Wooledge's exhortations to provide information about > > an issue: You were asked explicity to provide some; you never did. > > As it happens, I do not think the problems you have

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-02 17:57, Brian wrote: Regarding Greg Wooledge's exhortations to provide information about an issue: You were asked explicity to provide some; you never did. As it happens, I do not think the problems you have encountered have anything to do with saned. You have picked the wrong

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 Sep 2021 at 17:05:10 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-02 16:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 04:13:34PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > I'll just presume you are grumpy because you have had the jab. > > > > Please stop. > > > > Take a breath. In. Out. > > >

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-02 16:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 04:13:34PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I'll just presume you are grumpy because you have had the jab. Please stop. Take a breath. In. Out. Now: what is the problem you're experiencing? Start with a high level description: "My

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 04:13:34PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > I'll just presume you are grumpy because you have had the jab. Please stop. Take a breath. In. Out. Now: what is the problem you're experiencing? Start with a high level description: "My scanner doesn't work", for example. After

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-02 10:53, Curt wrote: On 2021-09-01, mick crane wrote: On 2021-09-01 16:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote: > * saned is socket activated. > * saned@.service manages saned instances. > *

Re: masked service file

2021-09-02 Thread Curt
On 2021-09-01, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-01 16:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: >>> On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote: >>> > * saned is socket activated. >>> > * saned@.service manages saned instances. >>> > * saned.service is masked

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:54:02PM +0100, Brian wrote: > As a non-professional sysadmin, this "Brian person" is wondering why > the OP's question (clearly relating to saned) is sidelined in favour > of other concerns. I'm not sure *what* the OP's question really is. They're on an X-Y tangent

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Sep 2021 at 13:52:21 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > Do you think your init system has some way to know WHY it was given a > > command? And that it stores these reasons somewhere, and can cough

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:52:21PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > Do you think your init system has some way to know WHY it was given a > > command? And that it stores these reasons somewhere, and can cough

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > Do you think your init system has some way to know WHY it was given a > command? And that it stores these reasons somewhere, and can cough them > up on demand? Speaking as a professional sysadmin, I would

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-01 16:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote: > * saned is socket activated. > * saned@.service manages saned instances. > * saned.service is masked because it is an empty file. > * The file is empty to

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 04:06:37PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote: > > * saned is socket activated. > > * saned@.service manages saned instances. > > * saned.service is masked because it is an empty file. > > * The file is empty to allow all instances to be managed

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread mick crane
On 2021-09-01 15:15, Brian wrote: On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 23:15:22 +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 15:27:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > The OP doesn't say whether he can scan or or not. > > > > He could give the name of

Re: masked service file

2021-09-01 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 23:15:22 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 15:27:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > The OP doesn't say whether he can scan or or not. > > > > > > He could give the name of the scanner he is

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 15:27:13 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: >

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:54:43PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > > > > > Is

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Aug 2021 at 14:48:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > > > Is there a way to find out why it is masked ? > > Starting from a point

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:31:22PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: > > You can simply 'unmask' it and see how it goes. > > Is there a way to find out why it is masked ? Starting from a point of zero context? Probably not. You MIGHT be able to scroll back through

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread mick crane
On 2021-08-31 18:49, john doe wrote: On 8/31/2021 7:36 PM, mick crane wrote: Since I didn't really need LVM and I wasn't thrilled with having the intrid.img at 70,00 bytes big I installed bookworm afresh. After installing all the software I might want it's grown from 13,00 to

Re: masked service file

2021-08-31 Thread john doe
On 8/31/2021 7:36 PM, mick crane wrote: Since I didn't really need LVM and I wasn't thrilled with having the intrid.img at 70,00 bytes big I installed bookworm afresh. After installing all the software I might want it's grown from 13,00 to 30,00 but that's OK. Most things are back