On 8 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(base-system + essential packages, and are now installing
more according to our needs...)
An inquiring mind wants to know...
Does your more include the X Window System...?
Oki
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Engelen wrote:
Apt is cool for web-installs and installing something when you exactly know
what package you want installed.
If you have the CDs and a web server, you can change your sources.list
to point to the server; then you'd get a web-install environment.
(I don't
You've not answered the question.
Apologies in advance for sending an attachment to a mailing list but didn't
want to delay in creating an HTML file.
This is based on what I saw for RedHat 6.1 for some of their screens.
Regards,
Will
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:
What I don't like about apt/dselect is how they treat packages locally
compiled from source tarball. I couldn't find an option to really ignore
dependencies and do what I say.
Specifically, if I want esound-alsa but have compiled the ALSA
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:34:23PM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote:
whishlist
A package state that tells the package managers that the functionality of
this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed
Look into the equivs package. Or, dive into the docs and see how to
whishlist
A package state that tells the package managers that the functionality of
this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed
Why don't you debianize the package or create a fake one that provides the
debian-package equivalent of what you locally installed ?
Ah,
A package state that tells the package managers that the functionality of
this package is provided locally, treat it as if it was installed
Look into the equivs package. Or, dive into the docs and see how to make
a [empty] package (you really only need 4 or 5 files and a few
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:
Why don't you debianize the package or create a fake one that provides the
debian-package equivalent of what you locally installed ?
Ah, I should have known there is a proper way to do this. This had briefly
occured to me, but I've never ever
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Kent West wrote:
2. Would the list members please stop ragging on newbies just because
the newbie expresses some frustration at not knowing how to accomplish
something? It's not that
I think saying this is difficult is not enough; it doesn't provide new
information
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies, versions,
file locations, etc, etc... It does it
fairly well and it does it accurately.
I think the problem in
On 7 Apr, Kent West wrote:
Richard Taylor wrote:
On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re:
no
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
...
Another thing, is
Oki writes:
But of course, it has to be followed up with explanations of the things
that could be improved, or at least with something that the complainer
would like to have or see.
Before proceeding to install and remove marked packages dselect (and
aptitude) should put up a menu listing all
which makes the user want to get out, and none of the keystrokes seem to
work like a
beginner (not someone who has read the docs and EXPERIENCED the
experience) would
expect. There's just a host of things that are difficult about deselect
and apt.
AMEN! I just reformated the HD with Debian
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 01:41:56PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
1. Nothing's difficult about selecting things from a menu. It's when those
selections
bring up other screens wanting to add/delete other things, which affect other
things,
which makes the user want to get out, and none of the
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:48:18AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies, versions,
file locations, etc, etc... It does it
Once upon a time, I heard John Hasler say
Before proceeding to install and remove marked packages dselect (and
aptitude) should put up a menu listing all the proposed changes and
offering the user the choice of
For dselect,
Proceed to install and remove marked packages
Select 3.
Once upon a time, I heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] say
Another thing that would be very helpful (and perhaps it exists and I
just have not yet found it) would be an easy way to just back up to
where one was a moment before, but not all the way to the beginning.
So, say you see a package on the list
On 4/7/2000, 10:56:59 PM, loki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
Re: no wonder...:
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:48:18AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Richard Taylor wrote:
My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
vastly more difficult process
On 4/7/2000, 10:00:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: no
wonder...:
What could be more intuitive?
Something that works. Your statement highlights the reason that when I
ask
for directions on how to drive somewhere, I will NOT ask someone that has
lived there all their life
On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 08:02:40AM +, Richard Taylor wrote:
Ummm... how does your dselect work? Mine does pretty much what you've
described above.
Not really; the whole thing is presented as a problem but it doesn't show
you clearly what it's done to try to resolve it, nor does it let
My mileage varies. I find that the program simplifies what can be a
vastly more difficult process... that of tracking dependencies,
versions,
file locations, etc, etc... It does it
fairly well and it does it accurately.
Which doesn't explain why there is a project to create a
Not really; the whole thing is presented as a problem but it doesn't
show
you clearly what it's done to try to resolve it, nor does it let you
accept/reject some of those changes in blocks. Simple example.. I
selected gnome-admin for install, and I get a conflict screen which
looks
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
What kind of people are they...?
What kind of difficulties you have?
Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
(as I have noticed; compared to
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
...
Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
difficult to use...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist
A person from ITB says that using Debian is
On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re:
no
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
...
Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
difficult to use...
As
Richard Taylor wrote:
On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re:
no
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
...
Another thing, is the dselect program: it is
On 4/7/2000, 1:41:56 PM, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: no
wonder...:
Richard Taylor wrote:
On 4/6/2000, 9:03:41 PM, Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re:
On 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix
On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:44:51AM +0200, Paolo Pedaletti wrote:
and what about aptitude (console) % gnome-apt (X) ?
Well, aptitude is help-system free and has no affordances, making it
on first sight identical in difficulty to dselect. I don't have
GNOME installed so probably can't use
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
Thanks for making contact with us here. I presume you've found
your first experiences a little hard. I hope you stick wth us,
when you'll be able to
Regarding the support:
I would not be so quick to say so. Debian is full of people that will help you
to the
best of their ability (and believe me, their ability is not a little one)
without ever
asking anything in return. Debian is also loaded with *goodstuff.deb. Now, if
this is
not enough,
On 05 Apr 2000, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
Regarding the support:
I would not be so quick to say so. Debian is full of people that will help
you to the
best of their ability (and believe me, their ability is not a little one)
without ever
asking anything in return. Debian is also loaded with
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 07:09:04PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
difficult to use...
Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
But what dselect disguises is an
That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some kind of
way to
have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and link to
wider
explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the system, without
needing to surf the debian site. Especially
Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is a good point. May be it would be a good idea to implement some
kind of way to
have a visual field of packages available, with short explanation and
link to wider
explanation (or link-option-command), accesible from within the
system, without
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No wonder people say that Debian is the most difficult
Unix-clone distro to install and use...
Fisrt of all, since Debian is not widely supported
(as I have noticed; compared to otherdistros such as
FreeBSD or Red Hat Linux), there are not many mirrors
for me to
Ciao Carl Fink,
Another thing, is the dselect program: it is quite
difficult to use...
Yes, ever more difficult too as the number of packages increases.
But what dselect disguises is an excellent package management tool.
You might find apt a better front-end to use. Try man
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