Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-08-06 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:24:25 -0500, Ron wrote in message 4a690d49.1040...@cox.net: On 2009-07-22 15:20, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message 1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main: ..steps 4, 5 and 6 are necessary why? Me, I've always been

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,23.Jul.09, 20:24:25, Ron Johnson wrote: But then, when I *do* do it, it's always with a minimal system, where I wait until I'm on Sid to install the bulk of the packages. Why not use the business-card image to install sid directly? http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#unstable-images

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-24 02:07, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu,23.Jul.09, 20:24:25, Ron Johnson wrote: But then, when I *do* do it, it's always with a minimal system, where I wait until I'm on Sid to install the bulk of the packages. Why not use the business-card image to install sid directly?

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Thierry Chatelet
http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#unstable-images Been there, looked at that. Those links all lead to /stable/. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer Here you will get what you need: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-24 04:02, Thierry Chatelet wrote: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#unstable-images Been there, looked at that. Those links all lead to /stable/. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer Here you will get what you need:

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qui, 23 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-22 13:28, S. Fishpaste wrote: Agreed, even in the web interface Google provides an option to bottom post via their options. One does have to set GMail to use plain text for that to work though. Simple enough to do. But even amongst the

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Robert Baron
It is so nice to see that there is a religion to responding to emails - analogous to the vi, emacs, wordstar, fill in your favorite editor here religions. Although I agree in general with the notions of interleaving posts and trimming quotes, this sometimes takes things out of context. I find it

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Baron wrote: Although I agree in general with the notions of interleaving posts and trimming quotes, this sometimes takes things out of context. Only if it isn't done properly.

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4a69e030.7040...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: The standard and proper way on Debian mailing lists is to bottom post and trim. I've read this before, and I wish it were true, but I don't think the Debian mailing lists actually have an official policy on posting style.

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-24 12:12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4a69e030.7040...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: The standard and proper way on Debian mailing lists is to bottom post and trim. I've read this before, and I wish it were true, but I don't think the Debian mailing

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,24.Jul.09, 12:12:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4a69e030.7040...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: The standard and proper way on Debian mailing lists is to bottom post and trim. I've read this before, and I wish it were true, but I don't think the Debian

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-22 15:20, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message 1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.:

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-22 13:28, S. Fishpaste wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:47:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. You

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-22 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:47:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. You don't HAVE to top post using gmail.

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message 1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: download amd64cd for sid...:( This is

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-22 Thread Damon Chesser
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 22:20 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message 1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Jonas Meurer
hey, On 21/07/2009 Soren Orel wrote: I tried Swiftfox, because Iceweasel is still 3.0.6. [...] Are there any up-to-date Firefox clone browsers? :D:| yes, iceweasel 3.5.1 is available in experimental: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel greetings, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Soren Orel
Ok, I downloaded: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb Then: dpkg -i iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb (Reading database ... 130618 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace iceweasel 3.5.1-1 (using iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb) ...

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 07:54, Soren Orel wrote: Ok, I downloaded: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb Then: dpkg -i iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb [snip] So I must install a trillion dependencies from unstable, to get a normal up-to-date browser under Lenny?

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Soren Orel
Lastly, for the real question: why are you on Lenny? Institution mandate? Narrow pipe? Fear of Testing breakage? What do you suggest? Is sid good for a Desktop environment? :O I just want to upgrade e.g.: Iceweasel, because it has a bug, related to adblock plus element hiding helperit's just a

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Soren Orel
thing, but there*'*s already Firefox _3.5_. (I hope they *fixed* the bug in that version) On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com wrote: Lastly, for the real question: why are you on Lenny? Institution mandate? Narrow pipe? Fear of Testing breakage? What do you

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Jerome BENOIT
From a previous thread: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=406 Soren Orel wrote: Ok, I downloaded: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb Then: dpkg -i iceweasel_3.5.1-1_amd64.deb (Reading database ... 130618 files and directories currently installed.)

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Avi Greenbury
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:13:55 +0200 Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com wrote: Lastly, for the real question: why are you on Lenny? Institution mandate? Narrow pipe? Fear of Testing breakage? What do you suggest? Is sid good for a Desktop environment? :O In general, the Testing (squeeze) or

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Soren Orel
But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: download amd64cd for sid...:( On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Avi Greenbury avismailinglistacco...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:13:55 +0200 Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com wrote: Lastly, for the real question: why

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Soren Orel
http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ But: Please note that security updates for unstable distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, unstable does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. so neither testing has

Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: download amd64cd for sid...:( This is Debian, not Ubuntu! Upgrading-in-place is Easy. Presuming you have a good internet connection, this *should* be all you need to do: 1. Edit sources.list,

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 08:58, Soren Orel wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/ But: Please note that security updates for unstable distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, unstable does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security

Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Tebbit
Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: download amd64cd for sid...:( Please keep a handle on top posting. You can upgrade your way up to sid the same way you upgrade each release, to squeeze, then sid. Google is full of information. Or for a fresh

Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Damon Chesser
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote: But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.: download amd64cd for sid...:( This is Debian, not Ubuntu! Upgrading-in-place is Easy. Presuming you have a good internet connection,

Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Tony Baldwin
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. You don't HAVE to top post using gmail. Note that I am using a gmail address (with imap via mutt or icedove, usually, but still,

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Tebbit
Tony Baldwin wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. You don't HAVE to top post using gmail. Note that I am using a gmail address (with imap via mutt or icedove,

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 10:47, Tony Baldwin wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Please keep a handle on top posting. This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail. You don't HAVE to top post using gmail. Note that I am using a gmail address (with imap

Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

2009-07-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-21 11:04, Tim Tebbit wrote: [snip] Very well put. Thunderbird/IceDove has the option to start your reply below the quote And there's even a reply-to-list addon (though you have to perform the magic handshake to get it to start doing what you want). -- Scooty Puff, Sr The