Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-23 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:37:54 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 22 Jun 2019 at 22:31:48 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:53:52 -0500 David Wright > > wrote: > > > But what eliminates it for me as a general viewer is the lack of key- > > > binding configuration file. Quoting

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-23 Thread David Wright
On Sat 22 Jun 2019 at 22:31:48 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:53:52 -0500 David Wright > wrote: > > But what eliminates it for me as a general viewer is the lack of key- > > binding configuration file. Quoting Archwiki, > > "Navigation within a document works with standard

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-22 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:53:52 -0500 David Wright wrote: ... > But what eliminates it for me as a general viewer is the lack of key- > binding configuration file. Quoting Archwiki, > "Navigation within a document works with standard keyboard shortcuts >and mouse interaction. For example, B

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-21 Thread David Wright
On Sat 15 Jun 2019 at 07:51:22 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 Erik Christiansen > >> wrote: > >> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on > >> > hand.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-18 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 12:11 PM Joe wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:28:10 +0200 > Hans wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: > > Did you try "Evince" or "Okular"? > I like evince. > > > > > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting franiortiz hotmail (2019-06-17 11:33:30) > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:11:17PM -0700, Fred wrote: >> On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: >>>On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or documentviewer.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-17 Thread franiortiz hotmail
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:11:17PM -0700, Fred wrote: > On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: > >On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: > >> > >>Hello, > >> > >>in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf > >>or documentviewer. > >> > >>But once in a while I get a pdf

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-17, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > >..or install Adobe Reader 9.5.5, which is still available on Adobe FTP > > server. Very rarely needed here, but it works. > I wonder about the advisability of running software that hasn't received security updates since 2013.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-17 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
On 6/15/19 3:11 PM, Fred wrote: > On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: >> Hello, >> >> thanks a lot for this interesting discussion. >> >> As stated before I used documentviewer and xpdf. >> >> As a consequence of this discussion I tried evince and mupdf. >> They did not solve the problem. >>

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 16/06/19, Gary Dale (g...@extremeground.com) wrote: > On 2019-06-15 12:43 p.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > We agree it is uncommon to use both (you go further and claim it is even > > common to use neither), and we agree it is common to use either one or > > the other (you go further and

Re: Offlist: Reading pdf files

2019-06-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 2019-06-15 12:43 p.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 17:46:50) On 2019-06-15 10:56 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 16:31:28) On 2019-06-15 3:39 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: A reason to avoid Okular is its memory and disk size when used

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Fred
On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: Hello, in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or documentviewer. But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I have to go to Windows to open it. What

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting k. jantzen (2019-06-15 17:40:24) > On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: > > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either > > xpdf or documentviewer. > > > > But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then > > I have to go to Windows to open it.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 17:46:50) > On 2019-06-15 10:56 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 16:31:28) >>> On 2019-06-15 3:39 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: A reason to avoid Okular is its memory and disk size when used in an otherwise non-KDE environment.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 15/06/19, Curt (cu...@free.fr) wrote: > I use mupdf from time to time, but as it doesn't refresh automagically like > Evince when I run 'pdflatex' on an open pdf file whose tex source I've > modified, I prefer the latter. Depending on your editor, it should be simple to sync the PDF to changes

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 05:40:24PM +0200, k. jantzen wrote: > Hello, > > thanks a lot for this interesting discussion. > > As stated before I used documentviewer and xpdf. > > As a consequence of this discussion I tried evince and mupdf. > They did not solve the problem. You might also try gv

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread k. jantzen
On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: Hello, in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or documentviewer. But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I have to go to Windows to open it. What is so spectacular about these files that

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Gary Dale
On 2019-06-15 10:56 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 16:31:28) On 2019-06-15 3:39 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: A reason to avoid Okular is its memory and disk size when used in an otherwise non-KDE environment. Far better than (e.g. virtualized) Windows with Adobe

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 16:31:28) > On 2019-06-15 3:39 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> A reason to avoid Okular is its memory and disk size when used in an >> otherwise non-KDE environment. >> >> Far better than (e.g. virtualized) Windows with Adobe Reader, though >> :-) > > However few

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Gary Dale
On 2019-06-15 3:39 a.m., Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [ quotes reordered by time - please consider not top-posting, Hans ] Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 05:35:58) On 2019-06-13 12:10 p.m., Joe wrote: Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: in general I do not have a

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 09:39:08AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:28:10 +0200 Hans wrote: Never had a problem with PDF forms using Okular. A reason to avoid Okular is its memory and disk size when used in an otherwise non-KDE environment. I haven't had any better

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 15.06.19 07:51, Curt wrote: > curty@einstein:~$ mupdf > usage: mupdf [options] file.pdf [page] > -p -password > -r -resolution > -A -set anti-aliasing quality in bits (0=off, 8=best) > -C -RRGGBB (tint color in hexadecimal syntax) > -W -

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Curt (2019-06-15 09:51:22) > On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 > >> Erik Christiansen wrote: > >> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to > >> > have on hand. > >> > >> I

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-15, Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 >>> Erik Christiansen wrote: >>> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on >>> > hand. >>> >>> I actually love mupdf,

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-15, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 >> Erik Christiansen wrote: >> > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on >> > hand. >> >> I actually love mupdf, and I use it as my main pdf reader.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[ quotes reordered by time - please consider not top-posting, Hans ] Quoting Gary Dale (2019-06-15 05:35:58) > On 2019-06-13 12:10 p.m., Joe wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 14.06.19 10:51, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 > Erik Christiansen wrote: > > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on > > hand. > > I actually love mupdf, and I use it as my main pdf reader. It's just so > lightweight and easy to use for

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Gary Dale
On 2019-06-13 12:10 p.m., Joe wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:28:10 +0200 Hans wrote: Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: Did you try "Evince" or "Okular"? Best Hans Hello, in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or documentviewer.

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 18:50:22 +1000 Erik Christiansen wrote: ... > I only use mupdf for problem pdf files, but it's very nifty to have on > hand. I actually love mupdf, and I use it as my main pdf reader. It's just so lightweight and easy to use for basic pdf reading. Celejar

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
e (a.k.a. "documentviewer"), Xpdf, Okular, Atril, Qpdfview and > > others use Poppler: > > > I started using Atril in last couple years after seeing it mentioned > over on Debian-Accessibility. I haven't used anything else since. I > haven't had any problems reading

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
ut can check which underlying PDF > rendering library they use which are far more limited. > > Evince (a.k.a. "documentviewer"), Xpdf, Okular, Atril, Qpdfview and > others use Poppler: I started using Atril in last couple years after seeing it mentioned over on Debian-Accessibilit

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-14 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 13.06.19 16:29, k. jantzen wrote: > > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or > documentviewer. Yup, documentviewer will sometimes show faint lines better, I find, but it's easy to set the background colour in xpdf. > But once in a while I get a pdf file

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting k. jantzen (2019-06-13 16:29:27) > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf > or documentviewer. > > But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I > have to go to Windows to open it. > > What is so spectacular about these files that

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-13 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
... >> in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf >> or documentviewer. >> >> But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I >> have to go to Windows to open it. >> >> What is so spectacular about these files that they cannot be read by the >>

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:28:10 +0200 Hans wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: > Did you try "Evince" or "Okular"? > > Best > > Hans > > Hello, > > > > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either > > xpdf or documentviewer. > > > > But

Re: Reading pdf files

2019-06-13 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2019, 16:29:27 CEST schrieb k. jantzen: Did you try "Evince" or "Okular"? Best Hans > Hello, > > in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf > or documentviewer. > > But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I > have

Reading pdf files

2019-06-13 Thread k. jantzen
Hello, in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf or documentviewer. But once in a while I get a pdf file that they cannot read and then I have to go to Windows to open it. What is so spectacular about these files that they cannot be read by the above