Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-08 Thread David Griffith
On Tue, 8 May 2018, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:23:57AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came to Debian, but I've never heard anything

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:23:57AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: [...] > >> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection > >> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came > >> to Debian, but I've

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:40:13 -0700 Patrick Bartek said: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith > wrote: >> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection >> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came >> to Debian,

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2018, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith > > wrote: > > > >> Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > >>

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
David Griffith writes: > On Sun, 6 May 2018, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 2018-05-06 at 21:25, David Griffith wrote: >> >>> What's the point of allowing libsystemd0 to exist when systemd has >>> been purged? >> >> So that programs which interface with systemd can detect whether or not >> systemd is

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread David Griffith
On Sun, 6 May 2018, The Wanderer wrote: On 2018-05-06 at 21:25, David Griffith wrote: What's the point of allowing libsystemd0 to exist when systemd has been purged? So that programs which interface with systemd can detect whether or not systemd is present, and fall back to alternate code

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-05-06 at 21:25, David Griffith wrote: > What's the point of allowing libsystemd0 to exist when systemd has > been purged? So that programs which interface with systemd can detect whether or not systemd is present, and fall back to alternate code paths when it's not. As I understand

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-06 Thread David Griffith
On Sun, 6 May 2018, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-06 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: > > Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The > ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused slowly-progressing trouble > with

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 02:44:16AM +, David Griffith wrote: > > Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The > ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused

Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-05 Thread David Griffith
Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused slowly-progressing trouble with several machines of mine culminating in complete failure a couple days ago. Initially I