Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Jochen Spieker wrote: Bob Proulx: The referenced thread has much good information concerning trim (aka the discard option) and I recommend reading through the entire thread. You are fine with trim enabled. In some cases using trim may help. In some cases using trim may hurt. I haven't

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
KS wrote: I have read some stuff on pros and cons for /tmp on tmpfs. One case case be a powerloss (just a desktop without UPS) or kernel panic and I loose files that I might have on /tmp temporarily. Isn't the default to purge /tmp on reboot normally anyway? man rcS TMPTIME

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Proulx: Jochen Spieker wrote: If you use TRIM (either using the discard mount option or using fstrim regularly), your usable spare area is manufacturer spare area plus free space on your filesystem. If you don't use TRIM (and don't keep unpartitioned space), your spare area is only as

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Wed, 09 Jul 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: * The discard options is not needed if your SSD has enough overprovisioning (spare space) or you leave (unpartitioned) free space on the SSD. See http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg40866.html AFAIU,

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: On Wed, 09 Jul 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: * The discard options is not needed if your SSD has enough overprovisioning (spare space) or you leave (unpartitioned) free space on the SSD. See

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Proulx: The wiki does say this: * The discard options is not needed if your SSD has enough overprovisioning (spare space) or you leave (unpartitioned) free space on the SSD. See http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg40866.html AFAIU, this discussion only relates to

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-09 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
The first call of fstrim after a reboot indeed normally seems to discard all free space of a filesystem. -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014, Jochen Spieker wrote: * The discard options is not needed if your SSD has enough overprovisioning (spare space) or you leave (unpartitioned) free space on the SSD. See http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg40866.html AFAIU, this discussion only relates

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Jörg-Volker Peetz: The first call of fstrim after a reboot indeed normally seems to discard all free space of a filesystem. It should discard all blocks that were not previously discarded. From the manpage: | fstrim will report the same potential discard bytes each time, | but only sectors

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Using today's Debian you do not normally need to bother with alignment as all partitions will be automatically aligned at 1 MiB boundaries by most of the tools anyway. Agreed. No need to worry about it with a default Wheezy or

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
KS wrote on 07/06/2014 17:29: snip What I want to know at this point is: Is there anything else that is recommended? The section on RAMDISK options on tmpfs, does that help? snip If you are going with /tmp on tmpfs and are using a graphical desktop (X), I recommend to set something like (sh

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Using today's Debian you do not normally need to bother with alignment as all partitions will be automatically aligned at 1 MiB boundaries by most of the tools anyway. Agreed. No need

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Rick Thomas wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Using today's Debian you do not normally need to bother with alignment as all partitions will be automatically aligned at 1 MiB boundaries by most of the tools anyway. Agreed. No need to worry about it with a default Wheezy or later installation.

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Using today's Debian you do not normally need to bother with alignment as all partitions will be automatically

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, 08 Jul 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Using today's Debian you do not normally need to bother with

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread KS
On 08/07/14 05:18 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: KS wrote on 07/06/2014 17:29: snip What I want to know at this point is: Is there anything else that is recommended? The section on RAMDISK options on tmpfs, does that help? snip If you are going with /tmp on tmpfs and are using a graphical

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread KS
On 08/07/14 09:37 PM, KS wrote: Over the last couple of days I have tried to run the trim command a few times and it seems to trim lots of bytes. 1) is that normal? 2) does that matter if I forget it, and 3) is it better to run a cron daily/hourly to do that for me *if needed*? Oops,

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-08 Thread KS
On 08/07/14 09:43 PM, KS wrote: On 08/07/14 09:37 PM, KS wrote: Over the last couple of days I have tried to run the trim command a few times and it seems to trim lots of bytes. 1) is that normal? 2) does that matter if I forget it, and 3) is it better to run a cron daily/hourly to do that

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-07 Thread Bob Proulx
KS wrote: I have done the following for optimization (ref: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization?action=showredirect=SSDoptimization): I wanted to say that I think that page needs an update for Wheezy. At one time there were many things needed for SSDs. The biggest being alignment to 4k

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-07 Thread Jochen Spieker
Bob Proulx: I am using a high quality SSD that has a signfican't amount ^^^ of internal over-provisioning. That's the funniest typo I have seen in a long time! :) J. -- I can tell a Whopper[tm] from a BigMac[tm] and Coke[tm] from Pepsi[tm].

SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-06 Thread KS
Hi all, I wanted to upgrade my system to amd64 and used that opportunity to install 2 240GB (1GB = 1000MB etc. unfortunately) SSDs on my rig. The partition map is below: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:00 223.6G 0 disk ├─sda1

Re: SSD optimization on Debian (2014)

2014-07-06 Thread Linux-Fan
On 07/06/2014 05:29 PM, KS wrote: Hi all, I wanted to upgrade my system to amd64 and used that opportunity to install 2 240GB (1GB = 1000MB etc. unfortunately) SSDs on my rig. [...] What I want to know at this point is: Is there anything else that is recommended? Nothing that I am aware