Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-12 Thread Charles Kroeger
An image copy is taken at a level closer to the hardware than the filesystem is. The data files are copied into the image still firmly embedded into the filesystem, along with all its metadata. Thanks very much for that illuminating description. I have to go deeper. I did find this link:

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-11 Thread thib
Charles Kroeger wrote: My question was since this backup is on an ext3 formatted USB stick, if my hard drive was reformatted with ext4, could the backup [image] on the USB stick be 'copied' back to the new ext4 partition, without problems, as it were. If that software is filesystem agnostic,

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-11 Thread Joe
On 11/07/10 04:18, Charles Kroeger wrote: Are you saying you took a copy of the partition using something like dd if=/dev/sdXy of=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on this-media or did you just copy the files? Thanks for your interesting suggestions; however, they reflect a considerable knowledge.

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-11 Thread Charles Kroeger
It looks as if the point you're missing is the nature of an image. Thanks for your reply. I was aware of the nature of an image, that's what I like about them. If your HD blows up or your computer is stolen just restore the image to the new hardware a chasteningly but wiser user perhaps but not

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-11 Thread Joe
On 11/07/10 19:55, Charles Kroeger wrote: It looks as if the point you're missing is the nature of an image. Thanks for your reply. I was aware of the nature of an image, that's what I like about them. If your HD blows up or your computer is stolen just restore the image to the new hardware a

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
There's a hell lot of confusion about ext4 If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted? thanks, -- CK Deo Soli Debianae, Invicto,

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread thib
Charles Kroeger wrote: If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted? I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by installing the image. Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media. The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy [image] of this data both reside on an ext3

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/07/10 22:28, Charles Kroeger wrote: I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by installing the image. Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media. The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler
On 10/07/10 00:36, Zachary Uram wrote: I just got a 500gb Hitachi hard drive (this is my second drive, my first drive is /dev/sda). What is the best way to install this in Linux? Is it better to run ext3 or ext4? Zach http://www.fidei.org Assuming you already have a fully working system

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
Are you saying you took a copy of the partition using something like dd if=/dev/sdXy of=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on this-media or did you just copy the files? Thanks for your interesting suggestions; however, they reflect a considerable knowledge. In my case, I'm using a proprietary

installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-09 Thread Zachary Uram
I just got a 500gb Hitachi hard drive (this is my second drive, my first drive is /dev/sda). What is the best way to install this in Linux? Is it better to run ext3 or ext4? Zach http://www.fidei.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-09 Thread Anand Sivaram
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 05:06, Zachary Uram net...@gmail.com wrote: I just got a 500gb Hitachi hard drive (this is my second drive, my first drive is /dev/sda). What is the best way to install this in Linux? Is it better to run ext3 or ext4? Zach http://www.fidei.org -- To

Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-09 Thread thib
Just plug it in and format it. If it's not supposed to be bootable and you only plan to format one block device on it (a filesystem, a physical volume, an encrypted volume, ...), you don't have to partition it (I usually don't) although some software *might* get confused by disks without

Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-13 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:56:21PM -0500, Kent West wrote: No, you don't need a second swap partition on the second drive. It doesn't hurt to have it (except wasted space, unless the extra swap space is needed). However, it can speed up swapping considerably, particularly if the drives are

Re: Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-13 Thread Robert Parker
On Monday 13 September 2004 15:08, Scott Barlow wrote: Thank you Andrew for your quick response. I have allowed enough for each partition. If anything I will be wasting space which is ok for the moment as i'm just experimenting. My computer consists of a 40gb drive which has the install on it

Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-13 Thread Alexis Huxley
Can you have two /home directories on separate disks? Do I need another partition on the second drive as swap? I'd appreciate any help regarding this matter. How about, after partitioning, mounting the partition of the new disk with a filesystem as /home-extended. Create directories under there

Re: Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-13 Thread Thomas Stivers
On Mon, Sep 13 2004 at 03:08:54PM +1000, Scott Barlow wrote: Thank you Andrew for your quick response. I have allowed enough for each partition. If anything I will be wasting space which is ok for the moment as i'm just experimenting. My computer consists of a 40gb drive which has the install

Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-12 Thread sbarlow
Hi, I am a (generally) linux newbie trying to jump in the deep end of learning linux. I have read a lot of documentation on the correct way to partition a hard disk by placing /, /home, /usr, /var, /boot, /tmp and obviously /swap on their own partitions, the size requirements and physical

Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-12 Thread Andrew Schulman
I am a (generally) linux newbie trying to jump in the deep end of learning linux. I have read a lot of documentation on the correct way to partition a hard disk by placing /, /home, /usr, /var, /boot, /tmp and obviously /swap on their own partitions, the size requirements and physical layout

Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-12 Thread Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a (generally) linux newbie trying to jump in the deep end of learning linux. I have read a lot of documentation on the correct way to partition a hard disk by placing /, /home, /usr, /var, /boot, /tmp and obviously /swap on their own partitions, the size

Re: Re: Partitioning a second hard disk

2004-09-12 Thread Scott Barlow
Thank you Andrew for your quick response. I have allowed enough for each partition. If anything I will be wasting space which is ok for the moment as i'm just experimenting. My computer consists of a 40gb drive which has the install on it and a blank 80gb drive. My /boot is around 100mb,

Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Dhiraj
in BIOS everytime you want to boot from the second hard disk. Just write map (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). This should swap your HDD's without making changes to the BIOS everytime. Then you load the grub on the second disk using chainloader just like we load windows bootloader. thanks a lot

Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Tom Pfeifer
! Why don't you too try this out instead of making changes in BIOS everytime you want to boot from the second hard disk. Just write map (hd0) (hd1) and map (hd1) (hd0). This should swap your HDD's without making changes to the BIOS everytime. Then you load the grub on the second disk using

RE: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-29 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
-Original Message- From: Dhiraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installing Debian on second hard disk Hello, Thanks for your reply. I now see some possibility that it might work. However

Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-28 Thread Dhiraj
somehow. Now, when I put in the second hard disk and the first is out, the second one will become /dev/hda but when I re-insert the first one as master, the second one will become /dev/hdb. I have grub as my loader on the first hard disk. If I add entries like (hd1,0) and (hd1,1), will the grub

RE: Installing Debian on second hard disk

2004-01-28 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
Debian on second hard disk Hello, My motherboard has two IDE channles. I have two optical drivers on one channel and my HDD on the second. I have win98SE and Red Hat 7.2 on my current HDD. I am planning to buy a second HDD and install win 2000 and Debian on it. When installing Debian

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-22 Thread mdevin
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:34:56PM -0400, Jens Gecius wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically I am trying to copy everything over to my second hard disk and then set up to make this the boot device. I know how to change the boot device in my bios. The problem seems to be getting

Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread mdevin
Basically I am trying to copy everything over to my second hard disk and then set up to make this the boot device. I know how to change the boot device in my bios. The problem seems to be getting lilo on the second hardisk. What I tried was this: Edited the /hd2/etc/lilo.conf and changed

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread punt45ACP
on any partition on any disk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically I am trying to copy everything over to my second hard disk and then set up to make this the boot device.  I know how to change the boot device in my bios. The problem seems to be getting lilo on the second hardisk.  What I tried

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread Corey Popelier
again. Everything worked fine. I'm positive theres a better answer, but if you can utilise this temporary measure it might work. Corey Popelier. On Mon, 21 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically I am trying to copy everything over to my second hard disk and then set up to make this the boot

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread mdevin
nest in the 1st primary partition and you can have it point to a LiLo on any partition on any disk. No. I just want to have a second fully functional copy of my Debian system on the second hard disk so that I can take out the first hard disk and the system can boot the second. So I can't have

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread mdevin
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:04:08PM +0800, Corey Popelier wrote: This won't be a good answer, but I had a friends machine with an IDE drive on /dev/hda, and a SCSI drive on /dev/sda, and wanted to boot off the SCSI. I also got that LILO warning, and got around it by unplugging the IDE drive,

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread Jens Gecius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically I am trying to copy everything over to my second hard disk and then set up to make this the boot device. I know how to change the boot device in my bios. The problem seems to be getting lilo on the second hardisk. What I tried was this: Edited

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread Jens Gecius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:04:08PM +0800, Corey Popelier wrote: This won't be a good answer, but I had a friends machine with an IDE drive on /dev/hda, and a SCSI drive on /dev/sda, and wanted to boot off the SCSI. I also got that LILO warning, and got around it

Re: Installing lilo on second hard disk

2001-05-21 Thread Joel Mayes
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:20:07PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:04:08PM +0800, Corey Popelier wrote: This won't be a good answer, but I had a friends machine with an IDE drive on /dev/hda, and a SCSI drive on /dev/sda, and wanted to boot off the SCSI. I also

linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread Balbir Thomas
advice? I have read linux+freebsd howto but could not glean anything about dealing with a second hard disk. Please note: my lilo version number is 21.5beta Sincerely Balbir Thomas

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread Forrest English
advice? I have read linux+freebsd howto but could not glean anything about dealing with a second hard disk. Please note: my lilo version number is 21.5beta Sincerely Balbir Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread John Galt
howto but could not glean anything about dealing with a second hard disk. Please note: my lilo version number is 21.5beta Sincerely Balbir Thomas -- FINE, I take it back: UNfuck you! Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread Balbir Thomas
like to avoid this . Could you please advice? I have read linux+freebsd howto but could not glean anything about dealing with a second hard disk. Please note: my lilo version number is 21.5beta Sincerely

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread David Z. Maze
Balbir Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BT I am running debian on /dev/hda and want to install bsd on BT /dev/hdc . However lilo is unable to boot freebsd on /dev/hdc and BT and I get the error 0x01 . The freebsd documentation say that I BT must install its boot manager on the first hard disk . I

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread Balbir Thomas
much . But Being familiar with lilo I would like to stick to it. 5) did you install the BSD bootloader AT ALL? No I do not install any boot loader for FreeBSD. And even if I do try to do so on the second hard disk it still does not work. 6) older FreeBSD is your disk Dangerously

Re: linux with bsd on second hard disk

2001-03-06 Thread John Galt
on the second hard disk it still does not work. 6) older FreeBSD is your disk Dangerously Dedicated? No. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Balbir Thomas wrote: Hi I am running debian on /dev/hda and want to install bsd on /dev/hdc . However lilo is unable to boot freebsd on /dev/hdc and and I get

Can't see second hard disk

1997-11-13 Thread Karsten Bolding
Hi Problems installing debian on a Compaq Deskpro on hdb (drive d: in Win95), but hdb is not detected during boot: hdb: probing with STATUS instead of ALTSTATUS then when I want to partition the disk during the installation only hda shows up on the list. Under Win95 I checked the

Re: Second Hard Disk

1997-03-13 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997, Pete Poff wrote: Hi, before I changed over to linux, I was MS-DOS and had two hardrives installed. They both worked fine. When I changed i didn't install the second hard drive and now I need to. How can I. I tryed to find some docs but couldn't. Also after

Second Hard Disk

1997-03-12 Thread Pete Poff
Hi, before I changed over to linux, I was MS-DOS and had two hardrives installed. They both worked fine. When I changed i didn't install the second hard drive and now I need to. How can I. I tryed to find some docs but couldn't. Also after I do, how to get to that hard disk?