Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-04 Thread Shyamal Prasad
John == John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Hmmm, just wrote a 1,600 article in emacs via ssh. John I'm not using all the navigation aids very well yet but i John can see where I'm going from here. Heh, hehI can just see you discovering emacsclient, and then

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Apr 2003, Joey Hess wrote: John Griffiths wrote: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've had no problems writing documents in that range with vim. Folding becomes fairly useful

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: John == John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Travis Crump wrote: Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer emacs. Both will suit your needs. John No, not a

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 11:49:45PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 19:23, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Honestly, I don't know that there is a good console wordpad.exe like editor. nano is probably the closest to what you are looking for, with emacs being a (much more complex but

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Colin == Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Colin On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad Colin wrote: The quoting above, [...] were all done by emacs. Colin Yes, I can tell. :( I even have a special vim macro to get Colin rid of that damned

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Alan Shutko
John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. Neal Stephenson uses Emacs: http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/nealstephensonOS.html -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: Pico? I don't know of any good reason to use pico instead of the suggested nano, unless you're using pine and are only using pico as the built-in editor. As far as I know nano entirely supersedes pico in all other respects. And best of all nano is free software while

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:54:21PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: John No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are John aimed at writers rather than coders, The quoting above, [...] were all done by emacs. Yes, I can tell. :( I even have a special

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:19:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: And best of all nano is free software while pico/pine fails the DFSG test. Wasn't that how nano came about? A free replacement for a non-free but popular editor? Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:18:48AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Colin Watson wrote: Yes, I can tell. :( I even have a special vim macro to get rid of that damned emacs-style (SuperCite/PowerQuote) quoting, as it goes nuts once you're a few levels deep ... Note that I use emacs as well. But

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 05:49:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 11:19:52 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: And best of all nano is free software while pico/pine fails the DFSG test. Wasn't that how nano came about? A free replacement for a non-free but

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to everyone who contributed. Emacs seems to have a very similar control structure to the ancient perfect writer on my fathers old kaypro, so i'll give it a shot as a happy return to my childhood. (BTW the tutorial sold it to me along with

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-03 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmmm, just wrote a 1,600 article in emacs via ssh. I'm not using all the navigation aids very well yet but i can see where I'm going from here. I really liked the ispell interface. Thanks very much for all the suggestions. John John Griffiths

Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G'day all. Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a number of remote locations. I

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Thursday, 03 April 2003, 10:58 AM +1000): Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Shyamal Prasad
John == John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John G'day all. Due to a somewhat complicated set of John circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell John based text editor to write prose with. John basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Travis Crump
John Griffiths wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G'day all. Due to a somewhat complicated set of circumstances I'm looking for a decent non graphical shell based text editor to write prose with. - - basically i want to be able to ssh onto my server and write from a number of

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez wrote: vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a bunch of others. Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: vim, emacs, pico, nano, ... these are all text editors. How you format your text is up to you. (This was written in vim.) Yep, OK. what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like

RE: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Joyce, Matthew
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Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Travis Crump wrote: Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer emacs. Both will suit your needs. No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are aimed at writers rather than coders, maybe they aren't, maybe the

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Mark Ferlatte
John Griffiths said on Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:32:37AM +1000: vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a bunch of others. Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to write in

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Tom Massey
* John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-03 13:09]: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written a couple of 50,000 word novels, a 10,000 word Honours thesis, and numerous short

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks very much. Tom Massey wrote: * John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-03 13:09]: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Roberto Sanchez
nchez wrote: vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a bunch of others. Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to write in is english (ok, australian english - close) and i

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 10:23 pm, Tom Massey wrote: * John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-04-03 13:09]: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've written a couple of 50,000 word

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 20:32, John Griffiths wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez wrote: vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a bunch of others.

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric G. Miller wrote: IMHO, it is better to write in plain text, focusing on *content* first, and worry about *presentation* much, much later. I've seen people waste enormous amounts of time formatting draft word processor documents over and over

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto Sanchez wrote: vim also has some neat search features, syntax highlighting (if your prose happens to be C, Lisp, or some other code), online help, and a bunch of others. Thanks for that, I should clarify that the language I want to

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Shyamal Prasad
John == John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Travis Crump wrote: Is this a troll? I prefer vim, a good number of people prefer emacs. Both will suit your needs. John No, not a troll, I want to know if any of the editors are John aimed at writers

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread JS Bangs
Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: vim, emacs, pico, nano, ... these are all text editors. How you format your text is up to you. (This was written in vim.) Yep, OK. what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread David Z Maze
Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've never looked at Emacs (actually I have, but the guide I was looking at was rather poor). Is it easy to re-program control keys? Yes (albeit in Lisp); my .emacs file has, for example (global-set-key \C-xf 'fixup-whitespace) to change what happens

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Joey Hess
John Griffiths wrote: what I'm after is a recommendation from others who might have used something like this to write 5,000 word plus english language documents. I've had no problems writing documents in that range with vim. Folding becomes fairly useful after a while, if it's all in one file.

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Waters
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:02 +1000, Joyce, Matthew wrote: I tried many editors, I found them all crap. What I wanted was a port of Edit which came with MSDos6. Alas there is non. I did try using RHIDE, a programming IDE, for a while, ok as a text editor. These days I just use Touch to

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread John Griffiths
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Waters wrote: If you haven't already tried it, you might like fte/sfte. Michael cool, it looks feature rich, what do you like about it? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: Shell based text editor for writing prose

2003-04-02 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 19:23, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Honestly, I don't know that there is a good console wordpad.exe like editor. nano is probably the closest to what you are looking for, with emacs being a (much more complex but featureful) second. Pico? -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED]