Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-08-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russell L. Harris wrote: >> So it generally is best to use a laptop in the service for which a >> laptop was designed. But if you keep the machine in a cool room, it may >> run for years in continuous service. > > Certainly has been the case for my l

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-08-05 Thread Steve Lamb
Russell L. Harris wrote: > So it generally is best to use a laptop in the service for which a > laptop was designed. But if you keep the machine in a cool room, it may > run for years in continuous service. Certainly has been the case for my laptop. When I left one job a few years ago I wa

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-08-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Russell L. Harris wrote: [in regards to laptop hard discs] The situation is not simple. Indeed, it is not. [snip some very good information] The head of the drive normally flies (in the aerodynamic sense) above the spinning media; there is no contact with the media while the drive spinnin

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-08-03 Thread Russell L. Harris
"Jack Nguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another thing to keep in mind is the spinning of the harddrive. A > harddrive doesn't have inifite lifespan and laptop harddrives are not > designed for 24/7 spinning. > > Jack > > > On 7/12/06, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have a year o

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-08-03 Thread Jack Nguy
Another thing to keep in mind is the spinning of the harddrive. A harddrive doesn't have inifite lifespan and laptop harddrives are not designed for 24/7 spinning. Jack On 7/12/06, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I recently

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-18 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 03:04 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:57:01 -0500 > Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I read in a Popular Science magazine that freezing a battery may help. > > I had little to lose as this battery was getting very bad, so I tried > > it. ...It d

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-18 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:57:01 -0500 Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 02:06 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:03 -0500 Jay C Vollmer wrote: > > > On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-io

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-17 Thread Owen Heisler
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 02:06 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:03 -0500 Jay C Vollmer wrote: > > On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: > > > I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop > > > memory, they just lose capacity each time they're ch

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-16 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:51:03 -0500 Jay C Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: > > > I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop > > memory, they just lose capacity each time they're charged. > > Isn't what you're describi

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-14 Thread Nate Duehr
Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:51:03PM -0500, Jay C Vollmer wrote: On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop memory, they just lose capacity each time they're charged. Isn't what you're describing 'memor

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Gnu-Raiz wrote: "David R. Litwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. Does your laptop get hot under load? My wife has a Pentium M that burned out two motherboards, when used to crunch RC5-72. I look at it like this, if a computer is left on it mig

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:51:03PM -0500, Jay C Vollmer wrote: On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop memory, they just lose capacity each time they're charged. Isn't what you're describing 'me

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-14 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:51:03PM -0500, Jay C Vollmer wrote: > On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: > > > I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop > > memory, they just lose capacity each time they're charged. > > Isn't what you're describing 'memory?'

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Jay C Vollmer
On Thursday 13 July 2006 21:24, Carl Fink wrote: > I'm not an electrochemist, but modern Li-ion batteries don't develop > memory, they just lose capacity each time they're charged. Isn't what you're describing 'memory?' -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHI

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Nate Duehr
Chris Mattern wrote: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:07:48PM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. Really? Most batteries lose life if repeated

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 09:32:28AM +1000, Charlie wrote: > My current Acer laptop, 2 years old. Has the company suggest that a 500 > charge > life cycle is usual, but could vary. It doesn't suggest that the battery will > continue to deliver the same amount of battery time throughout that cycle

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Charlie
On Friday 14 July 2006 07:08, Chris Mattern wrote this for perusal by us all: >--> Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >--> >--> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:07:48PM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: >--> > >--> > >--> >>> That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly > if --> >>> left plugge

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread M-L
On Friday 14 July 2006 03:47, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote this for perusal by us all: >--> Sean Perry on Thursday 13 Jul 2006 01:37 wrote: >--> >--> > That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if >--> > left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. >--> >--> T

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Mattern
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:07:48PM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. Really? Most batteries lose life if repeatedly discharged and rech

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Derek Broughton
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > Sean Perry on Thursday 13 Jul 2006 01:37 wrote: > >> That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if >> left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. > > That's scary. > > I've been using my laptop 24/7 plugged into the mains. >

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Sean Perry on Thursday 13 Jul 2006 01:37 wrote: > That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if > left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. That's scary. I've been using my laptop 24/7 plugged into the mains. Can you refer me to some documentation wh

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Gnu-Raiz
> From: Dave Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've done the same here, because of the high ambient heat in > Bangkok. Built a little rack to set the slab on, and heat > problems went away. My Sony laptop does have little feet at the back for that very reason, while the Dell 600M does not. Th

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Derek Broughton
David R. Litwin wrote: > The question is this: Why should I ever turn off my laptop on a normal > occasion (normal being every-day, standard, stationary usage)? Because you care about the planet... > If I don't > want it on, I can suspend it in some way: Waking-up is faster than > booting-up.

Odp: Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Zbigniew Wiech
I always suspend instead of shutting down for the same reason . I don't see any negatives. (very old Compaq, Win 2K) regards Greg Ryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2006-07-12 19:45 Do debian-user@lists.debian.org DW Temat Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I? ---

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-12 16:54:21 -0500]: > I use a 12" piece of 2x4 wood to prop up the rear of my never-moves, > always-on work laptop. That gives room to circulate air underneath, > and the fan hardly ever comes on. Once or twice a week for a a few > minutes. > I've do

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gnu-Raiz wrote: >> "David R. Litwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. > > Does your laptop get hot under load? My wife has a Pentium M that > burned out two motherboards, when used to crunch RC5-72. >

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Brockway wrote: > I'm going piggy back a couple responses here... > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Digby Tarvin wrote: [snip] >> I would also suggest a reboot any time you use apt to do an >> upgrade, > > I'd modify this a little. I schedule a reboot

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Jul 12 16:11 -0500]: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:07:48PM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: > > > That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if > > left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. > > Really? Most batteries lose

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:07:48PM -0700, Sean Perry wrote: > That said, most laptop batteries degrade performance significantly if > left plugged into the mains 24/7. So only plug in for refills. Really? Most batteries lose life if repeatedly discharged and recharged. -- Carl Fink

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Sean Perry
David R. Litwin wrote: I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I recently downloaded two large files via BitTorrent. As I wanted to have them as quickly as I could, I decided to leave my laptop on until they were fully downloaded, rebooting only for upgrades. I noticed no real

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Gnu-Raiz
> "David R. Litwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. Does your laptop get hot under load? My wife has a Pentium M that burned out two motherboards, when used to crunch RC5-72. I look at it like this, if a computer is left on it might as well be d

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Robert Brockway
I'm going piggy back a couple responses here... On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Digby Tarvin wrote: On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:45:20AM -0700, Greg Ryman wrote: I would say to do a reboot and possible a file system check once a month to avoid corruption and unintended loss of data. Other then that, you do

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 10:45:20AM -0700, Greg Ryman wrote: > I would say to do a reboot and possible a file system check once a month > to avoid corruption and unintended loss of data. Other then that, you > don't need to reboot. I would also suggest a reboot any time you use apt to do an upgrade

Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread Greg Ryman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would say to do a reboot and possible a file system check once a month to avoid corruption and unintended loss of data. Other then that, you don't need to reboot. David R. Litwin wrote: > I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I

Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-12 Thread David R. Litwin
I have a year old Toshiba Intel Mobil P4 laptop using Sid. I recently downloaded two large files via BitTorrent. As I wanted to have them as quickly as I could, I decided to leave my laptop on until they were fully downloaded, rebooting only for upgrades. I noticed no real difference in performance