Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-22 Thread David
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 18:57, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 13 iun 20, 15:30:08, David wrote: > > As an aside, how did you find this, I am very curious, what are people's > > methods [...] Does anyone have any tips for successful bug > > searching? > I started from: > >

Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-22 Thread David
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 17:54, wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:30:08PM +1000, David wrote: > > As an aside, how did you find this, I am very curious, what are people's > > methods [...] Does anyone have any tips for successful bug > > searching? > One method I resort to when I'm somewhat

Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-22 Thread David
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 23:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:30:08PM +1000, David wrote: > > I found myself wishing that you had tested the command that actually failed > > for me in my posted question: > > > > $ apt source -t unstable cgdb > > I don't know anything about

Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:30:08PM +1000, David wrote: > Greg thanks for providing a worked example, but I was disappointed that you > did not actually test the command given on the wiki page, the one that > failed for me. In your example, you used > > $ apt-get source ksh > > How do you know

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:52:55PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 13 iun 20, 12:25:55, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:08:20PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Vi, 12 iun 20, 18:27:45, Reco wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 13 iun 20, 12:25:55, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:08:20PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 12 iun 20, 18:27:45, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:15:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:08:20PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 12 iun 20, 18:27:45, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:15:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > For "apt source" to work

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iun 20, 18:27:45, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:15:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > For "apt source" to work you need to add two lines: > > > > > > deb http://approx:/debian/ unstable main

Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 13 iun 20, 15:30:08, David wrote: > Hi, first thank-you to everyone who replied for taking an interest in > assisting me and improving Debian guides. I feel very lucky to have access > to you folks here with expertise and experience plus the goodwill to help > someone without expecting

Re: [solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-13 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 03:30:08PM +1000, David wrote: > Hi, first thank-you to everyone who replied [...] > I will summarise and respond to all in this one message. Well, thank *you* for taking up that work! [...] > As an aside, how did you find this, I am very curious, what are people's >

[solved] Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
Hi, first thank-you to everyone who replied for taking an interest in assisting me and improving Debian guides. I feel very lucky to have access to you folks here with expertise and experience plus the goodwill to help someone without expecting anything in return. I will summarise and respond to

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 01:32:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > My first message was quite polite. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/06/msg00426.html Your first message was factually incorrect *and* rude. I merely showed where you've mistaken. > My second message went into

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > DO NOT add a "deb" line for unstable! > > > > I will keep repeating that as many times as it takes. Because it's > > freaking IMPORTANT. > > Just a hint: it'd be more empowering for your interlocutors if you > didn't just tell "don't do that" but rather what happens if they > do (my guess

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:59:47PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > apt show approx will help. It's an APT proxy/cache (I'm more familiar > > with apt-cacher-ng though) > > Oh, that actually looks useful [...] It sure is. I've

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:59:47PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > After the compiling, it started running a test suite. One of the > tests failed. So, this particular package might not have been as > good a choice as I had hoped, for a simple demonstration of the > process. I was too

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > apt show approx will help. It's an APT proxy/cache (I'm more familiar > with apt-cacher-ng though) Oh, that actually looks useful. (Also, you actually gave *useful information*, that was not simply "do research on this half a

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:42:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > They say that one can prove anything by creative usage of quoting, and > yours is a fine example of it. Here's better one: Sorry. I wasn't trying to "prove" anything. Much less to make you or anyone look bad. [...] > > Hey, folks.

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:38:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > > > LOL.

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread steve
Calm down Greg and after that have a look at https://packages.debian.org/sid/approx Thanks. Steve Le 12-06-2020, à 12:33:02 -0400, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > unicorn:~$ host approx > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) LOL. Sober up

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. > > unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx >

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:33:02PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. Ugh. > unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx >

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 07:15:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > unicorn:~$ host approx > > Host approx not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) > > LOL. Sober up first, then learn how to use apt. unicorn:~$ man sources.list | grep approx unicorn:~$ man apt | grep approx unicorn:~$ man apt-get | grep approx unicorn:~$

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 12:02:11PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:27:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable to a stable > > > system. Only add the "deb-src" line. > > > > And that one too (a hint - it does not). > > It does

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 06:27:45PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable to a stable > > system. Only add the "deb-src" line. > > And that one too (a hint - it does not). It does not *what*? What the hell are you talking about? What it does is add UNSTABLE BINARY

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 12 iun 20, 22:02:12, David wrote: > > But step 3 fails: > $ apt source -t unstable cgdb > Reading package lists... Done > E: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a > release is not available in the sources > E: Unable to find a source package for > $ apt source

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:15:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > For "apt source" to work you need to add two lines: > > > > deb http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > > deb-src

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 04:40:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > For "apt source" to work you need to add two lines: > > deb http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free > deb-src http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free Incorrect. Do *not* add a "deb" line for unstable

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:23:27PM +1000, David wrote: > The next step in the instructions also does not work for me > (on buster): > > # mk-build-deps --install --remove > Usage: > mk-build-deps --help|--version > > mk-build-deps [options] control file | package name ... In your case

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:02:12PM +1000, David wrote: > Per step 1, I add a temporary unstable deb-src line so that my > /etc/apt/sources.list becomes (comments removed, see last line): ... > deb-src http://approx:/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free For "apt source" to work

Re: SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
The next step in the instructions also does not work for me (on buster): # mk-build-deps --install --remove Usage: mk-build-deps --help|--version mk-build-deps [options] control file | package name ... # I thought those instructions are intended for a person who is running stable and

SimpleBackportCreation attempt says: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release

2020-06-12 Thread David
Hi, on buster, I'm having a problem using the wiki instructions https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation specifically the 3 steps under the subheading "Add source package entries for the testing distribution" Although in my case I am seeking to obtain the source package from unstable, not