Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>So please tell me why, despite all the other distributions using your
>code base to make extremely stable versions of buster, has debian rather
>pointedly, indeed gone out of your way, to unsupport the rpi's?
Nobody has "gone out of their way" to *unsupport* anything.
On Ma, 21 iul 20, 14:42:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 02:47:47 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Lu, 20 iul 20, 13:46:28, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > If synaptic is pulling in *-backports without you manually DOING
> > > something to select the backport over the standard
On Ma, 21 iul 20, 08:52:07, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> What has amazed me from the gitgo, is that the single most popular by a
> wide margin, arm based board, outnumbering all others combined by a
> wide margin, gets zero support from debian.
Debian's contribution to hardware support is limited
On 2020-07-19 13:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
Very disapointed in the results from the openscad to Cura to ender 3
pro
results. Forstarters, no support for gcodes g2/g3 so everything has to
be cobbled up with short straight lines.
So I installed slic3r. but all I get is the help
On Monday, July 20, 2020 10:11:40 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 20, 2020 06:58:10 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > "the latest candidate version" would be more accurate. If you think this
> > wording is an improvement feel free to file a wishlist bugs against
> > 'apt' (the package).
On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 02:47:47 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 20 iul 20, 13:46:28, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > If synaptic is pulling in *-backports without you manually DOING
> > something to select the backport over the standard version, then
> > synaptic is broken. Broken-er. More
On Tuesday 21 July 2020 07:45:03 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:43:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Most of the hardware support is in the kernel and as far as I can
> > tell buster should run with a 4.2 kernel (required by systemd).
>
> The release notes for buster say
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:43:52AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Most of the hardware support is in the kernel and as far as I can tell
> buster should run with a 4.2 kernel (required by systemd).
The release notes for buster say that it requires a 3.2 kernel due
to GNU libc.
On Tuesday 21 July 2020 02:43:52 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 20 iul 20, 13:52:38, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 20 July 2020 13:01:17 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > On Lu, 20 iul 20, 12:24:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > FWIW, it installs and runs fine on a pi4 running buster 10.4.
> > > >
On Lu, 20 iul 20, 13:46:28, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:41:58PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 20 July 2020 11:41:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Why in the name of all that is unholy did you install ONE HUNDRED
> > > SEVENTY-ONE backported packages?!?
> > >
> > >
On Lu, 20 iul 20, 13:52:38, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 13:01:17 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Lu, 20 iul 20, 12:24:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > FWIW, it installs and runs fine on a pi4 running buster 10.4. But I
> > > don't have space close enough to the pi4 to put the printer
https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/ - there's at least one image there
for the 4GB Raspberry Pi 4 from Gunnar Wolf - but note that this is still a
work in progress. It's certainly possible: other folk have got this to boot
using experimental UEFI - it's there such that you don't _have_ to use
On Monday, July 20, 2020 02:34:11 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> By setting synaptic to prefer oldstable, and removing the stuff slic3r
> complained about, then re-installing the oldstable stuff, with about 3
> trips around the mulberry bush, I got it to run!!! All w/o a reboot.
Hurrah!
On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 13:38:46 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 10:59:59 David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 04:53:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 20 July 2020 00:49:48 David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 July 2020 13:48:12 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:38:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > These 4 pkgs have now been downgraded to oldstable. And now a launch
> > of slic3r --gui yells about a missing Wx.pm. Not Wx3.pm, but Wx.pm.
> >
> > What perl pkg, available
On Monday 20 July 2020 13:01:17 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 20 iul 20, 12:24:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > FWIW, it installs and runs fine on a pi4 running buster 10.4. But I
> > don't have space close enough to the pi4 to put the printer within
> > reach of it. I've 3 other machines, all
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 08:01:17PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 20 iul 20, 12:24:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > FWIW, it installs and runs fine on a pi4 running buster 10.4.
>
> And buster doesn't work with that kernel because... ?
Because, strictly speaking, *Debian* buster cannot run
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:38:46PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> These 4 pkgs have now been downgraded to oldstable. And now a launch of
> slic3r --gui yells about a missing Wx.pm. Not Wx3.pm, but Wx.pm.
>
> What perl pkg, available for stretch, contains that module?
You have two ways to find
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 01:41:58PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 11:41:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Why in the name of all that is unholy did you install ONE HUNDRED
> > SEVENTY-ONE backported packages?!?
> >
> > What were you THINKING?
> Automatic install by synaptic as they
On Monday 20 July 2020 11:41:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:37:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 20 July 2020 07:24:41 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > dpkg -l | grep '\ >
> > 171
>
> Why in the name of all that is unholy did you install ONE HUNDRED
> SEVENTY-ONE
On Monday 20 July 2020 10:59:59 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 04:53:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 20 July 2020 00:49:48 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > > > >
On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 19:49:42 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 20 iul 20, 09:01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:38:22PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > The easiest way to find all installed packages from backports is to run
> > >
> > > aptitude search
On Lu, 20 iul 20, 12:24:35, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> FWIW, it installs and runs fine on a pi4 running buster 10.4. But I don't
> have space close enough to the pi4 to put the printer within reach of
> it. I've 3 other machines, all running wheezy because thats the last
> RTAI kernel the
On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 12:24:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 10:11:40 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 20, 2020 06:58:10 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > "the latest candidate version" would be more accurate. If you think
> > > this wording is an improvement feel
On Lu, 20 iul 20, 09:01:17, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:38:22PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > The easiest way to find all installed packages from backports is to run
> >
> > aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(backports))'
>
> Actually, the *easiest* way to
On Monday 20 July 2020 10:11:40 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 20, 2020 06:58:10 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > "the latest candidate version" would be more accurate. If you think
> > this wording is an improvement feel free to file a wishlist bugs
> > against 'apt' (the package).
>
>
On Lu, 20 iul 20, 11:41:04, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:37:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 20 July 2020 07:24:41 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > dpkg -l | grep '\ > 171
>
> Why in the name of all that is unholy did you install ONE HUNDRED
> SEVENTY-ONE
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:37:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 07:24:41 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > dpkg -l | grep '\ 171
Why in the name of all that is unholy did you install ONE HUNDRED
SEVENTY-ONE backported packages?!?
What were you THINKING?
On Monday 20 July 2020 07:24:41 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> dpkg -l | grep '\http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 09:59:59AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> AFAICT the problem packages are listed above:
>
> wx3.0-headers 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1
> libwxgtk-media3.0-0v5 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1
> libwxgtk3.0-0v5 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1
> libwxbase3.0-dev 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1
>
> It
On Mon 20 Jul 2020 at 04:53:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 20 July 2020 00:49:48 David Wright wrote:
> > On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday, July 20, 2020 06:58:10 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> "the latest candidate version" would be more accurate. If you think this
> wording is an improvement feel free to file a wishlist bugs against
> 'apt' (the package).
>
Thanks -- I'll probably let that percolate in my head for a little
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:38:22PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> The easiest way to find all installed packages from backports is to run
>
> aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(backports))'
Actually, the *easiest* way to find all packages from backports
is to run
dpkg -l | grep
On Du, 19 iul 20, 23:49:48, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
> > >
> > > Looks
On Du, 19 iul 20, 14:30:54, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:38:22 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > The easiest way to find all installed packages from backports is to
> > run
> >
> > aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(backports))'
>
> that spits out about 3 or 4 lines
On Du, 19 iul 20, 14:45:27, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> That would be very nice, but the docs for pinning stuff is damned near
> a secret,
The documentation is in 'man apt_preferences', 'apropos' (a.k.a. man -k)
finds it.
> and involves (apparently) more ways than the /e/a/preferences.list.
>
On Du, 19 iul 20, 14:27:24, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Aside: The funny thing to me (which someone might comment on) -- I absolutely
> know that the old version of openssh-client is installed (by running ssh -V),
> but I ran apt-get again (after installing openssh-server) and it tells me
>
On Du, 19 iul 20, 14:06:31, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> Stretch, is apt-get country.
The 'apt' command was introduced in APT version 1.0 (jessie).
> But:
>
> gene@coyote:~/Downloads/stl.stf/files$ apt policy libwxgtk3.0-dev
> libwxgtk3.0-dev:
> Installed: 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1
> Candidate:
On Monday 20 July 2020 00:49:48 David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
> > >
> > >
On Sun 19 Jul 2020 at 11:55:05 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
> >
> > Looks like it is. Because [1] shows libwx-perl, and it's a real
> >
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 02:49:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libwxgtk-media3.0-dev : Depends: wx3.0-headers (= 3.0.2+dfsg-4) but
> 3.0.4+dfsg-4~bpo9+1 is to be installed
> Depends: libwxgtk-media3.0-0v5 (=
On Sunday 19 July 2020 14:28:45 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 02:20:13PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:18:16 Reco wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
On Sunday 19 July 2020 14:27:24 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 19, 2020 01:05:55 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
> > 3.0.3 but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
On Sunday, July 19, 2020 02:27:24 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 19, 2020 01:05:55 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> > but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:38:22 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 iul 20, 12:47:45, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Did that Andrei, updated apt-get, apt-get now gives a reason.
> > Depends on 2 more packages, but adding them to the apt-get install
> > line gets this:
>
> If APT can't find a solution
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 02:20:13PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:18:16 Reco wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
> > > 3.0.3 but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
On Sunday, July 19, 2020 01:05:55 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libalien-wxwidgets-perl : Depends: libwxgtk3.0-dev (< 3.0.3~) but
>
On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:24:14 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 iul 20, 20:18:16, Reco wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
> > > 3.0.3 but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> > >
> > > The
On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:18:16 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
> > 3.0.3 but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
On Sunday 19 July 2020 13:14:32 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 iul 20, 13:05:55, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version
> > 3.0.3 but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
On Du, 19 iul 20, 12:47:45, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> Did that Andrei, updated apt-get, apt-get now gives a reason. Depends on
> 2 more packages, but adding them to the apt-get install line gets this:
If APT can't find a solution adding more packages to the install line
won't help.
> The
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:24:14PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 iul 20, 20:18:16, Reco wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> > > but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> > >
On Du, 19 iul 20, 20:18:16, Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> > but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:55PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libalien-wxwidgets-perl : Depends: libwxgtk3.0-dev (< 3.0.3~) but
>
On Du, 19 iul 20, 13:05:55, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> Now apt-get is bitching because it thinks I'm asking for version 3.0.3
> but only 3.0.4 stuff is available:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libalien-wxwidgets-perl : Depends: libwxgtk3.0-dev (< 3.0.3~) but
>
On Sunday 19 July 2020 12:32:40 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:19:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 July 2020 10:32:12 Reco wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
> > >
> > > One of
On Sunday 19 July 2020 12:00:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 19 iul 20, 11:55:05, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
> > >
> > > Looks like
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:19:02PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2020 10:32:12 Reco wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
> >
> > One of the possible ways of doing it:
> >
> > deb
On Sunday 19 July 2020 10:32:12 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
>
> One of the possible ways of doing it:
>
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
> deb
On Du, 19 iul 20, 11:55:05, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
> >
> > Looks like it is. Because [1] shows libwx-perl, and it's a real
> > package.
On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
>
> Looks like it is. Because [1] shows libwx-perl, and it's a real
> package.
>
> Reco
>
> [1]
Hi.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 05:35:04PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> Op 19-07-2020 om 16:32 schreef Reco:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
> >
> > One of the possible ways of doing it:
> >
> > deb
Op 19-07-2020 om 16:32 schreef Reco:
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
One of the possible ways of doing it:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:28:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Whats my sources.list suposed to look like?
One of the possible ways of doing it:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
Reco
On Sunday 19 July 2020 09:56:10 Reco wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
>
> Looks like it is. Because [1] shows libwx-perl, and it's a real
> package.
>
> Reco
>
> [1]
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 09:45:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Looks like my apt/sources.d is not uptodate?
Looks like it is. Because [1] shows libwx-perl, and it's a real
package.
Reco
[1] https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libwx-perl
On Sunday 19 July 2020 08:15:51 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:00:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > That also fails, looking for Wx.
>
> apt-get install libwx-perl
>
> Reco
gene@coyote:~/Downloads/stl.stf/files$ sudo apt-get install libwx-perl
[sudo] password for gene:
Hi.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 08:00:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> That also fails, looking for Wx.
apt-get install libwx-perl
Reco
Greetings all;
Very disapointed in the results from the openscad to Cura to ender 3 pro
results. Forstarters, no support for gcodes g2/g3 so everything has to
be cobbled up with short straight lines.
So I installed slic3r. but all I get is the help screen which is several
pages long. But one
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