Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 05, 2020, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:18:04 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: >> On Apr 05, 2020, Celejar wrote: >>> Well, you don't name your ISPs, but I'm pretty sure the big ones >>> generally forbid running servers (for anything beyond "personal" use) on >>> residential

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-05 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 07:18:04 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 05, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:11:33 -0400 > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:46:00 -0400 > > > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 03,

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 05, 2020, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:11:33 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:46:00 -0400 > > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > > Fair enough - but has anyone

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-05 Thread dalios
Hi all, The links below contain many suggestions (of which a percentage has already been mentioned in this thread). However I am putting the links here because there are a few more options inside. I guess there are many recent similar threads in many FLOSS lists/forums/other discussion platforms

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-04 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:11:33 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:46:00 -0400 > > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > Fair enough - but has anyone looked into, say, Jitsi Meet's default > > > >

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 2/4/20 3:27 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: It could be a manpower issue and/or upstream wants more flexibility than allowed by Debian policies. I use autokey. Until earlier this year the latest version available in debian was 0.90.odd. Version 0.95.10 is now available in testing thanks to some

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:46:00 -0400 > Dan Purgert wrote: > > > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > > [...] > > > Fair enough - but has anyone looked into, say, Jitsi Meet's default > > > settings? Do they block non-hosts from screen sharing? > > > > IIRC, jit.si

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Tom Dial
On 4/2/20 02:56, Curt wrote: > On 2020-03-31, n...@dismail.de wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >>> […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in >>> hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video conferencing >>> tool. >> >> Based on

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 12:46:00 -0400 Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > Fair enough - but has anyone looked into, say, Jitsi Meet's default > > settings? Do they block non-hosts from screen sharing? > > IIRC, jit.si (their web-client) defaults to needing a

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Dan Purgert
On Apr 03, 2020, Celejar wrote: > [...] > Fair enough - but has anyone looked into, say, Jitsi Meet's default > settings? Do they block non-hosts from screen sharing? IIRC, jit.si (their web-client) defaults to needing a passphrase to even get in. But I only ever took a cursory glance before

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 16:14:26 - (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-02, Celejar wrote: > >> > >> I was just reading this little item about zoom from the G-men (actually, > >> Kristen is a Boston G-woman, apparently): > >> > >>

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-02, Celejar wrote: >> >> I was just reading this little item about zoom from the G-men (actually, >> Kristen is a Boston G-woman, apparently): >> >>

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:16:43 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > Le 31/03/2020 à 22:27, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:09:47PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> I second Zoom. You can install it via flatpak, which might make you feel > >> better. I

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:56:26 +0200 wrote: > On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 12:13:24PM -, Curt wrote: > > On 2020-04-01, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > This thread isn't too encouraging (though I'm uncertain about the exact > > nature of the participants): > > > >

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 12:13:24 - (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-01, Celejar wrote: > > > > How easy is it in practice to install on Debian? The following statement > > in the FAQ scared me off: > > > > * > > > > BigBlueButton requires Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit. See Install BigBlueButton. > > > >

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 08:56:18 - (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2020-03-31, n...@dismail.de wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > >> […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in > >> hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video conferencing

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 14:50:40 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:58:16AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >I am indeed strongly tempted to try that. I suppose I'm just spoiled by > >Debian - I almost always install stuff from the repos, and I tend to > >assume (probably somewhat

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 12:13:24PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2020-04-01, Celejar wrote: [...] > This thread isn't too encouraging (though I'm uncertain about the exact > nature of the participants): > > https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/issues/8861 LWN has a currently a topic on

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-01, Celejar wrote: > > How easy is it in practice to install on Debian? The following statement > in the FAQ scared me off: > > * > > BigBlueButton requires Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit. See Install BigBlueButton. > > We (the core developers) have not installed BigBlueButton on any other >

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-02 Thread Curt
On 2020-03-31, n...@dismail.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in >> hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video conferencing >> tool. > > Based on zoom's "privacy" policy and everything

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 19:27:37 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 01 apr 20, 08:58:16, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 03:57:17 + > > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > > > > server. And Jitsi is open source. What more could you ask? > > > > I am indeed strongly tempted to try that. I

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Markos
Em 31-03-2020 13:44, Markos escreveu: Hi Friends, My wife is a teacher and is trying to teach remote lessons using only WhatsApp video calls. To help her I am looking for a package in the Debian repository to organize virtual classes for small groups, 5 or 6 students maximum. Any

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 01 apr 20, 08:58:16, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 03:57:17 + > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > > server. And Jitsi is open source. What more could you ask? > > I am indeed strongly tempted to try that. I suppose I'm just spoiled by > Debian - I almost always install stuff

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:58:16AM -0400, Celejar wrote: I am indeed strongly tempted to try that. I suppose I'm just spoiled by Debian - I almost always install stuff from the repos, and I tend to assume (probably somewhat unreasonably) that if something isn't there, there's a good reason for

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:11:55 +0200 juh wrote: > Am 01.04.20 um 01:09 schrieb Celejar: > > I spend some time today trying to find a libre alternative to Zoom, > > preferably one in the Debian repos, but came up empty. The closest I > > found were indeed Jitsi Meet (a part of the much larger Jitsi

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 03:57:17 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 07:09:35PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >Actually, *no* official Debian repository currently contains Jitsi. It > >was removed in 2017, apparently due to QA issues, although I don't know > >the whole story: > >

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread mick crane
On 2020-03-31 21:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:27:28PM +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in > hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread juh
Am 01.04.20 um 13:14 schrieb deloptes: > juh wrote: > >> My hosting cooperative Hostsharing runs BigBlueButton on Debian >> machines. We recently made a stress test with 47 participants to see >> what requirements are needed in reality. > > very good - as far as I see theoretically it should be

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread deloptes
juh wrote: > My hosting cooperative Hostsharing runs BigBlueButton on Debian > machines. We recently made a stress test with 47 participants to see > what requirements are needed in reality. very good - as far as I see theoretically it should be possible to run it on windows, but no one tried

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Richard Hector
On 1/04/20 8:11 pm, juh wrote: > Use a translation server if you want to read it all but the figures > should be clear enough. Commas are useful :-) > Use a translation server if you want to read it all, but the figures > should be clear enough. > Use a translation server if you want to read

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread deloptes
juh wrote: > We wrote a report about our test in German. > > https://www.hostsharing.net/blog/2020/03/30/bigbluebutton-im-lasttest/ > > Use a translation server if you want to read it all but the figures > should be clear enough. What is the ratio for the bandwidth - up/down? For example I

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:14:00PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:27:59PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:09:47PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > > >>I second Zoom. You can install it via flatpak, which might make you > >>feel

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread juh
Am 01.04.20 um 01:09 schrieb Celejar: > I spend some time today trying to find a libre alternative to Zoom, > preferably one in the Debian repos, but came up empty. The closest I > found were indeed Jitsi Meet (a part of the much larger Jitsi project), > and BigBlueButton, libre but designed to be

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-04-01 Thread Erwan David
Le 31/03/2020 à 22:27, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:09:47PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: > > [...] > >> I second Zoom. You can install it via flatpak, which might make you feel >> better. I tried jitsi some time ago, I think that will require a bit more >>

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 07:09:35PM -0400, Celejar wrote: Actually, *no* official Debian repository currently contains Jitsi. It was removed in 2017, apparently due to QA issues, although I don't know the whole story: Perhaps the problem was nothing more than a conflict with another package in

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 19:05:47 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 31 March 2020 18:24:30 deloptes wrote: > > > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > You can conference through a server at jitsi.org, or you can > > > download a jitsi package (a Debian package is available) which you > > > can install

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:14:00 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > At the moment, the Debian STABLE repository contains no Jitsi package. Actually, *no* official Debian repository currently contains Jitsi. It was removed in 2017, apparently due to QA issues, although I don't know the whole story:

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 March 2020 18:24:30 deloptes wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > You can conference through a server at jitsi.org, or you can > > download a jitsi package (a Debian package is available) which you > > can install on your own server and run with complete independence > > from

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread deloptes
Russell L. Harris wrote: > You can conference through a server at jitsi.org, or you can download > a jitsi package (a Debian package is available) which you can install > on your own server and run with complete independence from jitsi.org. well, if you had the bandwidth. 1:1 works @home, but

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread deloptes
n...@dismail.de wrote: > Based on zoom's "privacy" policy and everything I've herad so far about > it, I would not recommend using zoom. Some examples: > - Just a week or so ago it was exposed that zoom was sharing data with > facebook without informing the user about it or giving any choice on

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:27:59PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:09:47PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: I second Zoom. You can install it via flatpak, which might make you feel better. I tried jitsi some time ago, I think that will require a bit more setup for

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Yvan Masson
I definitely recommend Jitsi Meet: there is nothing to install on both sides, and many companies/people already provide free servers you can use for any purpose without registration, for example: - https://meet.jit.si - https://suricate.tv (french server/company) I know teachers that are using

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:27:28PM +0200, n...@dismail.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in > > hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video conferencing > > tool. > > Based on zoom's

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread nito
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 08:17:56PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > […] Recently I was looking at zoom.us - seems to be in > hype now - can be installed in debian and can be used as video conferencing > tool. Based on zoom's "privacy" policy and everything I've herad so far about it, I would not

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 03:09:47PM -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote: [...] > I second Zoom. You can install it via flatpak, which might make you feel > better. I tried jitsi some time ago, I think that will require a bit more > setup for sure. It's proprietary, right? -- t signature.asc

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, at 1:17 PM, deloptes wrote: > Bob Weber wrote: > > > > Also think of administrative overhead. I would look into web tools > > > instead. > Years ago we were doing few things with moodle - but it is huge and mostly > pays off only at institutional level. Since then I have

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:44:14PM -0300, Markos wrote: > Hi Friends, > > My wife is a teacher and is trying to teach remote lessons using only > WhatsApp video calls. > > To help her I am looking for a package in the Debian repository to organize > virtual classes for small

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Berkhan Berkdemir
I would highly recommend to check Jitsi [0]. Offers *almost* the same features that Zoom has. [0]: https://jitsi.org On March 31, 2020 9:44:14 AM PDT, Markos wrote: >Hi Friends, > >My wife is a teacher and is trying to teach remote lessons using only >WhatsApp video calls. > >To help her I am

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
barnard for command line users and mumble for graphical users can connect to the same channel and the interface will be video not just text. On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, Markos wrote: > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:44:14 > From: Markos > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Small

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread deloptes
Bob Weber wrote: > Have you seen Debian education? Start here and see if there are any > programs that your wife could use.  They probably would need the students > to have Debian on their computers or you could use vnc so they could all > see what the teacher is doing on her computer (possible

Re: Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Weber
On 3/31/20 12:44 PM, Markos wrote: Hi Friends, My wife is a teacher and is trying to teach remote lessons using only WhatsApp video calls. To help her I am looking for a package in the Debian repository to organize virtual classes for small groups, 5 or 6 students maximum. Any suggestion

Small Open Source Digital Classroom

2020-03-31 Thread Markos
Hi Friends, My wife is a teacher and is trying to teach remote lessons using only WhatsApp video calls. To help her I am looking for a package in the Debian repository to organize virtual classes for small groups, 5 or 6 students maximum. Any suggestion of an open-source program