Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-16 Thread Richard Lyon
David Webster wrote: Well Windows and OS/2 don't seem to have a problem with letting you configure your sound stuff right up front. How hard is it to add a sound item to modconf screen used in in the Drivers Configuration phase of the install?. Afterall, these drivers are all modules

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, George Bonser wrote: : On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: : : On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 09:09:32AM -0600, David Webster wrote: : During the drivers installation phase there is no facility for : installing sound card info. I find this quite odd since sound is

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread robbie
On Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 07:05:36PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: r == robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r Why does debian not include sound modules in the default kernel package? Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel.

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/13/99 12:09:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] treff.uni-koeln.de writes: Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel. Some option must not be set for

RE: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Cristov Russell
. Cristov Russell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 1999 7:07 PM To: Debian Userslist Subject: Re: Sound configuration not in initial install On Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 07:05:36PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: r

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 09:09:32AM -0600, David Webster wrote: During the drivers installation phase there is no facility for installing sound card info. I find this quite odd since sound is as ubiquitous in computing today as ethernet and TCP/IP. The failure to Not on Unix, IMHO. But anyway

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 01:25:29AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 09:09:32AM -0600, David Webster wrote: During the drivers installation phase there is no facility for installing sound card info. I find this quite odd

RE: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread M.C. Vernon
gain sound. I had several reasons for wanting to learn Linux but as a musician my stance quickly becomes, No sound, why bother? What is your sound card? I haven't really used Linux since October out of the hope that Slink would have the updated kernel with it's added multimedia features

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski
M == MallarJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: M In a message dated 2/13/99 12:09:41 PM Central Standard Time, M [EMAIL PROTECTED] treff.uni-koeln.de writes: Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel. Some option must not be set for some

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski
r == robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r On Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 07:05:36PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Why bother with this. You should recompile your kernel anyway (to get a slim version that only has the things you use). With kernel-package, this is a breeze. r I strongly disaggree

GPL, was: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski
GB == George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GB As an aside, did you know that the GPL can be used to PREVENT the GB distribution of software? The GPL ENSURES the distribution of binary AND source. It prevents binary-only distribution. So what? This is a core element of this license. If you

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski
GB == George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GB Huh? Just about every commercial Unix has audio support by GB default. When was the last time you installed Solaris? Can you choose between different soundcards, when you buy Solaris? Anyway, the 2.2 kernel has modular sound support, so just

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-14 Thread robbie
On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 12:21:44PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: r == robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r On Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 07:05:36PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote: Why bother with this. You should recompile your kernel anyway (to get a slim version that only has the

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-13 Thread Ed Cogburn
David Webster wrote: Well Windows and OS/2 don't seem to have a problem with letting you configure your sound stuff right up front. How hard is it to add a sound item to modconf screen used in in the Drivers Configuration phase of the install?. Afterall, these drivers are all modules and

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski
r == robbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r Why does debian not include sound modules in the default kernel package? Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel. Some option must not be set for some soundcard, whereas others have to be

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-13 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 2/13/99 12:09:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] treff.uni-koeln.de writes: Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel. Some option must not be set for some soundcard, whereas others have to be etc.

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-13 Thread Ed Cogburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/13/99 12:09:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] treff.uni-koeln.de writes: Because sound in 2.0 kernels is not modular enough. IO, IRQ etc. have to be hardcoded into the kernel. Some option must not be set for some soundcard,

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-12 Thread robbie
Hi all. Why does debian not include sound modules in the default kernel package? Or maybe a sepperate package with sound modules which depends on the kernel. Regards Rob

Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread David Webster
During the drivers installation phase there is no facility for installing sound card info. I find this quite odd since sound is as ubiquitous in computing today as ethernet and TCP/IP. The failure to not allow us to configure sound at the outset forces us newbies to go into the daunting task of

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread Richard Hall
I think that there is far too much variation in sound cards for them to be supported in the generic initial kernel. Perhaps support for whatever the most typical sound setup might be could be compiled in. I don't know. That would only help a subset of new users anyway. My impression is that the

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread Pollywog
I got around these problems with a $20 purchase. I downloaded the OSS Linux driver from www.opensound.com and installed it. It worked the very first time. Now I don't need to configure sound in the kernel at all. -- Andrew

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Buying OSS could be a way, yes... But what would you need sound for the very first minute you install Linux for anyway? I think that you'd have more things to do than listen to music. Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread Ed Cogburn
David Webster wrote: During the drivers installation phase there is no facility for installing sound card info. I find this quite odd since sound is as ubiquitous in computing today as ethernet and TCP/IP. The failure to not allow us to configure sound at the outset forces us newbies to go

Re: Sound configuration not in initial install

1999-02-11 Thread BOHICA
Hmm, if Linux isn't going to provide sound configuration on the initial install, then why not note that on the main package selection screen that comes up on a clean install and give directions on how to recall the initial package selector once sound has been configured. This would help people