On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 09:50:14 +, Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >
> > > We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> > > as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> >
On 2015-10-17, Brian wrote:
>
> If I were to rewrite part of the package description I would have
>
> If in doubt install this package.
>
> No comma. Its not needed.
No, an apostrophe is needed.
> Install this package if in doubt.
>
>
--
Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> > as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> > unless you explicitly deselect the standard task in d-i.
>
> [pri
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:10:09AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> How about,
>
> When in doubt, definitely install this package.
>
> or, to guide the reader more carefully,
>
> This package is installed by default. Unless you have a very good
> reason and know what you are doing, leave it
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 05:24:10AM +, Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> >
> > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> >
> > Did you maybe misread that as
> > "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
>
> Yes I did.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 22:52:36 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
>> >
>> > As my spouse says:
>> >
>> > "When you go to the Co-op, please do get butter."
>> >
>> > Her expectations are not necessarily m
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 22:52:36 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
> >
> > As my spouse says:
> >
> > "When you go to the Co-op, please do get butter."
> >
> > Her expectations are not necessarily met by the eventual outcome. :)
>
> :-)
>
> Yes, but she
On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 19:40:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 19:40:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> > >>> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > >>>
On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> >>> Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > If in doub
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> unless you explicitly deselect the standard task in d-i.
Looking at the policy manual at
ht
On 2015-10-17, Brian wrote:
>>
>> The use of 'do' in that way suggests emphasis. If you wanted that
>> emphasis, a more unambiguous way is
>>
>> If in doubt, *install* this package
>>
>> If the emphasis is unnecessary, just leave out the the 'do'.
>
> The sentence is unambiguous (there no wor
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 15:01:55 +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Michael Biebl writes:
>
> > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> >> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schr
Michael Biebl writes:
> Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>> If in doubt, do install this package.
>
>
Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
>>> Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> If in doubt, do install this package.
Did you maybe misread that as
In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> > Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> > >
> > > Did you maybe misread that as
> > > "If in doubt, do *not* install this pa
On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> >
> > Did you maybe misread that as
> > "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
>
> Yes I did. I don't know h
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>
> > If in doubt, do install this package.
>
> Did you maybe misread that as
> "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
Yes I did. I don't know how many times I've read that sentence, and clearly saw
a _not_ in ther
Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> If in doubt, do install this package.
>
> When debian developers tells me in their package documentation that I really
> should not install their package, I tend to follow their advice. :)
Did you maybe misread that as
"If in doubt, do *not* ins
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Fredrik Jonson writes:
> > What is the recommended way to enable Systemd user services with Debian?
> [...]
> The documentation for "loginctl enable-linger" says "If enabled for a
> specific user, a user manager is spawned for the user at boot and kept
> around after
Fredrik Jonson writes:
> Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Fredrik Jonson writes:
>> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
>> Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.
>
> Initially that didn't work...
>
> root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
> Faile
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Fredrik Jonson writes:
> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
>
> Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.
Initially that didn't work...
root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
Failed to create bus connection: No suc
Fredrik Jonson writes:
> What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
[...]
> AFAIU, to make this happen, I need to have a user Systemd instance started on
> boot. How do I set up my Debian server to automatically start a user instance
> for a regular user on boot to co
Hi,
What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
With previous Debian releases I've been running services like tomcat from
regular user accounts by creating wrapper scripts that controls the PATH and
environment variables, and start those scripts with @reboot from the
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