[OT] Wheezy release goals (was Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?)

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:04:19PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: [OT] Have the Wheezy release goals been published? I hope that multi-arch APT and wide (%80 of main) package support is one of them. http://release.debian.org/wheezy/goals.txt -- Religion is excellent stuff for

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Michael Thompson
http://www.ipcop.org/ http://www.smoothwall.org/ The two are very similar and have the same roots. SmoothWall offers a commercial version with official paid support. IPCop does not. Commercial paid support for IPCop comes strictly from 3rd parties. In your case I'm guessing you don't

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 23.2.2011 3:35, Jason Hsu wrote: If that doesn't work, I'll do a fresh installation of Lenny on the old computer, upgrade it to Squeeze, and then set it up as a firewall/server. I hope you have Lenny full CD disk images available. Net Install does not work any more. I just reinstalled a

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:35:19 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote: (...) Is there anything wrong with sticking with Debian Lenny? I hope not. I'm also with lenny and won't upgrade until wheezy :-) Does Debian shut down support for old versions like Ubuntu does? Lenny will drop security patches when

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 23 feb 11, 17:01:41, Camaleón wrote: Lenny will drop security patches when wheezy comes out or one year after the release of squeeze, whichever comes first[1] (effective Debian support for releases is about 2 years). By your

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 23 February 2011 12:53:39 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 23 feb 11, 17:01:41, Camaleón wrote: (effective Debian support for releases is about 2 years). By your numbers it's about 4 years (2 years as stable and 2 years as oldstable), but in fact it's only about 3 years (aprox. 2

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:53:39 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 23 feb 11, 17:01:41, Camaleón wrote: Lenny will drop security patches when wheezy comes out or one year after the release of squeeze, whichever comes first[1] Sure. I hope Wheezy is not released tomorrow :-)

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:33:45 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 12:53:39 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 23 feb 11, 17:01:41, Camaleón wrote: (effective Debian support for releases is about 2 years). By your numbers it's about 4 years (2 years as stable and 2

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 23 February 2011 13:56:54 Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:53:39 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: By your numbers it's about 4 years (2 years as stable and 2 years as oldstable), but in fact it's only about 3 years (aprox. 2 years as stable and 1 year as oldstable). Nope,

Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Hsu
Thanks for the help on upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. It's hard to understand everything in the release notes, so it will take me some time to make the transition. Is there anything wrong with sticking with Debian Lenny? Does Debian shut down support for old versions like Ubuntu does

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-22 Thread John Hasler
Jason Hsu writes: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Debian Lenny? No. Does Debian shut down support for old versions like Ubuntu does? Support will continue for a couple of years. Look into backports. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20110222193519.538b384f.jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com, Jason Hsu wrote: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Debian Lenny? Yes and no. The longer you wait after the Squeeze release the less of the community will have Lenny and be able to easily answer your questions. Does Debian shut down

Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?

2011-02-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Jason Hsu put forth on 2/22/2011 7:35 PM: Thanks for the help on upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze. It's hard to understand everything in the release notes, so it will take me some time to make the transition. Is there anything wrong with sticking with Debian Lenny? Does Debian shut down

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:30:17 +, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 08 February 2011 15:03:35 Camaleón wrote: So, no more packages for lenny on D-M? No - and D-M needs to be removed, or at least commented out, from sources.list. Wait... why? There are still repos holding the old packages. What I

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 08 February 2011 15:03:35 Camaleón wrote: So, no more packages for lenny on D-M? No - and D-M needs to be removed, or at least commented out, from sources.list. Or, of course, one can live with the errors that are thrown up every time that one upgrades. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 08 feb 11, 20:14:41, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 08 feb 11, 14:28:34, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20110208174911.GT6759@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: you can run    aptitude search

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 08 feb 11, 20:14:41, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 08 feb 11, 14:28:34, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20110208174911.GT6759@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: you can run    aptitude search

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 08 feb 11, 20:14:41, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 08 feb 11, 14:28:34, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In

Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff
I have a headless VPS running Lenny. For the time being, until I get some time to attend to it, I wish to keep it that way. However, my sources.list points to stable: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Jochen Schulz
Tony van der Hoff: I have a headless VPS running Lenny. For the time being, until I get some time to attend to it, I wish to keep it that way. However, my sources.list points to stable: Then change that to lenny and run apt-get update. If you didn't install any packages from squeeze (which

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 11:27:55AM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free ... What happens in this case? Presumably updates will be taken from the new stable repository? Correct. Should I be specifying lenny instead of stable,

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 08/02/11 11:59, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 11:27:55AM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free ... What happens in this case? Presumably updates will be taken from the new stable repository? Correct. Should

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Bernard
Dave Sherohman wrote: Should I be specifying lenny instead of stable, Yes, if you want to stay on lenny until further notice. Personally, I always use the version names, so I'm not 100% certain that it's still around, but I believe you could also use old-stable to continue tracking

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Bernard schreef: Dave Sherohman wrote: Should I be specifying lenny instead of stable, ... I feel quite embarrassed in reading this above. I am still on Lenny, and wishes to remain that way for as long as possible, hopefully until I buy a new computer. Don't try for longer than a

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Bernard wrote: I feel quite embarrassed in reading this above. I am still on Lenny, and wishes to remain that way for as long as possible, hopefully until I buy a new computer. My 'sources.list' has a few calls for 'stable', and some calls for 'lenny'.

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 08 feb 11, 15:22:08, Bernard wrote: My 'sources.list' has a few calls for 'stable', and some calls for 'lenny'. How am I to know for sure whether or not I have already installed packages from Squeeze ? Last package I installed was 'xine-ui' and, not later than 2-3 days ago, I have

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20110208174911.GT6759@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: you can run aptitude search ~S~i~Astable to get the list of packages from stable/squeeze. Depends. The argument of ~A (stable in this case) is used as a regular expression. That regular expression also matches packages from

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 08 feb 11, 14:28:34, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20110208174911.GT6759@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: you can run aptitude search ~S~i~Astable to get the list of packages from stable/squeeze. Depends. The argument of ~A (stable in this case) is used as a regular

Re: Sticking with Lenny

2011-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Ma, 08 feb 11, 14:28:34, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20110208174911.GT6759@think.homelan, Andrei Popescu wrote: you can run    aptitude search ~S~i~Astable to get the list of packages from