Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 03 iul 11, 14:04:21, Curt wrote: What's wrong with just doing apt-get -d dist-upgrade first, thus rendering the whole question of NM dropping the connection or not moot. Or am I missing something? Yes, network-manager is not restarted during package download, but during package

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-03 Thread Curt
On 2011-07-02, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: And of course, warning about NM can leave the system disconnected is a very good point (I didn't know NM can take that path...), so in the evnt this can happen and the OP is using NM, he can just turn it off before doing the upgrade and

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:04:21 +, Curt wrote: On 2011-07-02, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: And of course, warning about NM can leave the system disconnected is a very good point (I didn't know NM can take that path...), so in the evnt this can happen and the OP is using NM, he can

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 21:29:12 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:47:38 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) Or is there some devious trick I'm missing?  Will an ssh connection from another machine survive the

Success! no longer stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 03 Jul 2011 01:45:54 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 17:53:50 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: Thanks for the advice. I'll ssh in and if the text consoles don't reappear after completing the upgrade, I can investigate further at leisure. Upgrade completed using ssh

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/02/11 at 01:47am, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm in the middle of the upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I have a partially working system. I've been following the instruction ins the release notes, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ ch-upgrading.en.html and I've

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:54:39 -0500, Brian Ryans wrote: Quoting Hendrik Boom on 2011-07-01 20:47: And I can't use cntl-alt-F1 to get a text console, because all I get is a blank black screen. Is gdm taking over the text consoles and disallowing them? How do I get my text consoles back so I

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:47:38 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) Or is there some devious trick I'm missing? Will an ssh connection from another machine survive the upgrade process, for example? Yes, I would try that way. Given your current situation I'd say a SSH session would be more than

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 03:14:12 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: On 07/02/11 at 01:47am, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm in the middle of the upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I have a partially working system. I've been following the instruction ins the release notes,

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Claudius Hubig
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:47:38 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) Or is there some devious trick I'm missing? Will an ssh connection from another machine survive the upgrade process, for example? Yes, I would try that way. Given your current situation I'd

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread lee
Claudius Hubig nfs_2...@chubig.net writes: If you absolutely have to use an SSH connection, install screen beforehand and run the upgrade from inside screen, so it can continue when the connection drops. You can also use screen in a terminal in an X session. It will survive quitting X, and

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:13:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:47:38 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) Or is there some devious trick I'm missing? Will an ssh connection from another machine survive the upgrade process, for example? Yes,

NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-02 Thread Claudius Hubig
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I run GDM and NM is off :-) Let’s just say that GDM is a good indicator of someone also using NM. But I take your point: if NM is not even capable of surviving from a remote ssh session then here you have a very good reason to disable it ASAP. It ‘simply’

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-02 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:01:18 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I run GDM and NM is off :-) Let’s just say that GDM is a good indicator of someone also using NM. A notebook or a portable system is more inclided to be an indicator for NM presence but not a DE or

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2011-07-02, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Let’s just say that GDM is a good indicator of someone also using NM. A notebook or a portable system is more inclided to be an indicator for NM presence but not a DE or a display manager :-) I disable NM in all of my workstations that run

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-02 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:54:02 +, Curt wrote: On 2011-07-02, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Let’s just say that GDM is a good indicator of someone also using NM. A notebook or a portable system is more inclided to be an indicator for NM presence but not a DE or a display manager :-)

Re: NetworkManager (was: Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze)

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:16:54 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:54:02 +, Curt wrote: On 2011-07-02, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Let’s just say that GDM is a good indicator of someone also using NM. A notebook or a portable system is more inclided to be an indicator

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Joey Hess
Hendrik Boom wrote: But I'm stuck. The next step is to issue apt-get dist-upgrade but I can't figure out where to type this in. I can log in using gdm, but terminals found there may expire during the upgrade, leaving everything in an inconsistent state. Debian takes care to keep your

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:34:46 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: (However, sshing in to upgrade a system running network manager does indeed not work; while I feel it's a serious bug the bug report about that has still not been dealt with sadly.) Maybe I missed it, but it doesn't even appear to be

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-02 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:47:38 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) Or is there some devious trick I'm missing?  Will an ssh connection from another machine survive the upgrade process, for example? Yes, I would try that way.

Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm in the middle of the upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I have a partially working system. I've been following the instruction ins the release notes, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ ch-upgrading.en.html and I've gotten as far as upgrading the kernel and udev.

Re: Stranded between lenny and squeeze

2011-07-01 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting Hendrik Boom on 2011-07-01 20:47: And I can't use cntl-alt-F1 to get a text console, because all I get is a blank black screen. Is gdm taking over the text consoles and disallowing them? How do I get my text consoles back so I can proceed with the rest of the upgrade? Try