Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:02:51AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > You're welcome. It's terribly difficult to remember. Or very easy to > forget. > I am over-sensitive to it at the moment, after my recent "discussion" on the > subject of

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 10:57 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > --  Forwarded Message  -- > > Subject: Re: System craches when browsing a web site > Date: Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:56:08 > From: Charlie Kravetz <c...@teamcharliesangels.com> > To: debi

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.10.2015 um 14:27 schrieb Abou Al Montacir: > On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 10:57 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> Only tried 3.16.3 so far, would be interesting to know how it works >>> with 3.14 and 3.18, and other browsers using WebKit. >> >> Midori 0.5.11 is using WebKit. It works without crashing.

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 28 October 2015 13:26:10 Abou Al Montacir wrote: >On Wednesday 28 October 2015 01:56:08 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:48:06 +0100 > > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I've looked

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 22:02 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Forwarded to unsubscribed OP > Lisi I keep forgetting, thanks for doing this! -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the corrections. To be honest, the install to test this was the first install using tasks I've done in a very, very long time. /peter Am 27.10.2015 um 22:51 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote:

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 07:39:58PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > > What fellow users think? He did ask to be CC'd, your post has fallen on deaf ears. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 28 October 2015 12:54:08 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:02:51AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [...] > > > You're welcome. It's terribly difficult to remember. Or very easy to > > forget. I am over-sensitive to

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Sven Arvidsson
> > Midori 0.5.11 is using WebKit. It works without crashing. > > > > This means probably that the bug is in epiphany and not webkit. It's a problem with the Gtk+ backend of WebKit. If you follow the bug I filed it was closed with a link here: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126122 --

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:53:53 +0100 Michael Biebl wrote: >Am 28.10.2015 um 14:27 schrieb Abou Al Montacir: >> On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 10:57 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> Only tried 3.16.3 so far, would be interesting to know how it works with 3.14 and 3.18, and other

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.10.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Charlie Kravetz: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:53:53 +0100 > Michael Biebl wrote: > >> No, midori and ephiphany use different versions of WebKit. >> midori uses WebKit1 (libwebkigtgtk-1.0-0), epiphany the newer WebKit2 >> (libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37) .. >

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
Forwarded to unsubscribed OP. On Wednesday 28 October 2015 01:56:08 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:48:06 +0100 > > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I've looked into that issue a bit futher,

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 28 October 2015 08:19:50 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 22:02 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Forwarded to unsubscribed OP > > Lisi > > I keep forgetting, thanks for doing this! You're welcome. It's terribly difficult to remember. Or very easy to forget. I am

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-28 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 01:16:25 +0100 Michael Biebl wrote: >Am 28.10.2015 um 20:56 schrieb Charlie Kravetz: >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:53:53 +0100 >> Michael Biebl wrote: >> >>> No, midori and ephiphany use different versions of WebKit. >>> midori uses WebKit1

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 08:15 +0300, moxalt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:40:10 +0100, Abou Al Montacir > wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany browser, > > and each time it makes my hole system crash. Only

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 07:43 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > --  Forwarded Message  -- > > Subject: Re: System craches when browsing a web site > Date: Tuesday 27 October 2015, 01:39:58 > From: Glenn English <g...@slsware.net> > To: debianUsers <d

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
To me, w3m seems to be the best way to check whether there is a connection problem or not. Bugs if any should be reported at the earliest. Regards, Himanshu Shekhar

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: >> I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. > > Both of them are non-free Good point, well taken. But OP doesn't like Mozilla for some reason. Chromium is at least free as in

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 06:39:42 Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 26, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. > > > > Both of them are non-free > > Good point, well taken. But OP doesn't

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 01:39:58 Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > What fellow users think? > > Toss the sucker and get one that works. There are billions and billions of > browsers around. Even some that aren't Microsoft

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 01:43:14 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. > > Both of them are non-free (Chromium has at least unclearly licensed > code). We have many free as in freedom browsers. I have used Iceweasel > since I

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, This is not a bug with Debian in particular, but with Epiphany in general. I could reproduce a similar behaviour, but managed to kill the browser process before the system became completely unresponsive. I suggest you file a bug report with

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 09:38 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > This is not a bug with Debian in particular, but with Epiphany in > general. I could reproduce a similar behaviour, but managed to kill > the browser process before the system became completely unresponsive. > > I suggest

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > epiphany browser [...] makes my hole system crash. It should not. > My problem is how it happens that a user program make a Linux system freeze. First thing to test is whether it is a crash or a freeze of the desktop. If you have a network with a second computer then log into the

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 09:27 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, I don't > care about > epiphany, I can use an other browser as you said, but just care about > a stable > OS! Debian, and Linux in general, does handle buggy programs. But

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test within the confines of a VM I can say that 1) I can still access the TTYs and 2) the OOM killer removes the offending process as soon as both RAM and Swap is full. Since your

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Curt
On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's > a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20 > > Before filing a bug, you, or anyone else who can reproduce the bug need > to investigate. Somebody filed a

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +, Curt wrote: > Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380 > > Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's > a specific article on reuters.com--go figure). > > Nvidia video card

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your computer. Have you tried XFCE or KDE? Or, just to check, lynx from a

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > Hello, > > I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test > within the confines of a VM I can say that > 1) I can still access the TTYs and > 2) the OOM killer removes the offending process as soon as both RAM > and

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > as Debian by default installs > Iceweasel, not Epiphany. Do oyu mean "Gnome by default" etc.? Debian certainly doesn't. Lisi

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 13:30:02 Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > (Iceweasel is the > default for Debian for example) It's not. It's desktop dependant. Lisi

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
Forwarded to unsubscribed OP Lisi On Tuesday 27 October 2015 17:07:47 Curt wrote: > On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's > > a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20 > > > > Before filing a

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 12:59 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, > > Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your > computer.

Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
Forwarded to unsubscribed OP Lisi On Tuesday 27 October 2015 19:53:11 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +, Curt wrote: > > Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th. > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380 > > > > Sounds similar to the OP's

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 18:59:59 Glenn English wrote: > And thanks, Lisi, for forwarding things for me before I noticed that Abou > wasn't subscribed. You're welcome - I have been left rather noticing such things after that latest thread. ;-) I have been remiss in the past. Lisi

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-27 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:48:06 +0100 Sven Arvidsson wrote: >On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 14:30 +0100, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've looked into that issue a bit futher, and as far as I can test >> within the confines of a VM I can say that >> 1) I can still access the TTYs

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Abou Al Montacir
Hi Lisi, Thanks for answering! Yes I can browse that website using iceweasel without any issue. But It happens I use epiphany as primary browser and don't ask me why I use such a bad browser, I just don't like mozilla products! Now The issue is not that epiphany craches, this I can understand any

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
Forwarded to OP. Lisi On Monday 26 October 2015 17:20:10 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 16:40 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany > > browser, and > > each time it makes my hole system crash. Only

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread moxalt
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:40:10 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Dear All, > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany browser, > and each time it makes my hole system crash. Only poweroff/poweron can > recover. https://www.blinq.com/ > > While I

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > What fellow users think? Toss the sucker and get one that works. There are billions and billions of browsers around. Even some that aren't Microsoft or Mozilla :-) And, no, Debian shouldn't do more than complain

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies. Both of them are non-free (Chromium has at least unclearly licensed code). We have many free as in freedom browsers. I have used Iceweasel since I use Debian and I have never had any problems with it but only very

System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Abou Al Montacir
Dear All, I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany browser, and each time it makes my hole system crash. Only poweroff/poweron can recover. https://www.blinq.com/ While I can understand that epiphany does not support some features and craches, I don't understand that

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 26 October 2015 15:40:10 Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Dear All, > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany browser, > and each time it makes my hole system crash. Only poweroff/poweron can > recover. https://www.blinq.com/ > > While I can understand that epiphany

Re: System craches when browsing a web site

2015-10-26 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 16:40 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Dear All, > > I tried to browse the following site multiple times using epiphany > browser, and > each time it makes my hole system crash. Only poweroff/poweron can > recover. > https://www.blinq.com/ I get an error "Problem displaying