Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-23 00:09:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. Just in Java though I guess? I can't believe xfce allows me to do that - in fact I know

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-23 00:46:28, schrieb Dotan Cohen: 2008/5/22 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. So now all I need is to add a number keypad to this laptop and I'll be set!

Re: Move mouse with keypad (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-23 16:18:56, schrieb Adam Hardy: Dotan Cohen on 23/05/08 09:53, wrote: 2008/5/23 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? Key 5 Right-click? Sorry, it sounds a bit lame but a 15 min search for the documentation produced nothing but blog entries

Move mouse with keypad (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/23 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? Key 5 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Adam Hardy
Kent West on 23/05/08 04:46, wrote: Kent West wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 04:46, wrote: Kent West wrote: You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. That makes my day! Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? From

Re: Move mouse with keypad (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-23 Thread Adam Hardy
Dotan Cohen on 23/05/08 09:53, wrote: 2008/5/23 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? Key 5 Right-click? Sorry, it sounds a bit lame but a 15 min search for the documentation produced nothing but blog entries and email list archives. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Adam Hardy
Kent West on 23/05/08 13:38, wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 04:46, wrote: Kent West wrote: You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. That makes my day! Is it

Re: Move mouse with keypad (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-23 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 23/05/08 16:18, wrote: Dotan Cohen on 23/05/08 09:53, wrote: 2008/5/23 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible to fake a mouse-click? Key 5 Right-click? Sorry, it sounds a bit lame but a 15 min search for the documentation produced nothing but blog entries and email

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-23 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Kent West on 23/05/08 13:38, wrote: From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/part2/section-19.html: o) The keypad arrow keys move the pointer o) The keypad '5' key behaves like the 'default' pointer button o) The keypad '0' key locks the default pointer button (for easy

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-05-18 18:22:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? END OF REPLIED MESSAGE It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/22 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. So now all I need is to add a number

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Adam Hardy
Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: Am 2008-05-18 18:22:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? END OF REPLIED MESSAGE It is already there... You can control

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
Adam Hardy wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: Am 2008-05-18 18:22:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? END OF REPLIED MESSAGE It is already there...

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-22 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/21 Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have expected better of Technion! Hard in training, easy in war. I think that is the philosophy behind some of the Technion's decisions. If this is actually a java problem then they should use something else. If this is not a java problem,

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes some work to get to. First, go to this URL: http://mathnet.math.technion.ac.il/ Then click on the text English demo of MathNet. To log in use these credentials: Enter demo in the top input box. Enter d in the bottom input box.

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-20 Thread Adam Hardy
Dotan Cohen on 20/05/08 10:17, wrote: There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes some work to get to. First, go to this URL: http://mathnet.math.technion.ac.il/ Then click on the text English demo of MathNet. To log in use these credentials: Enter demo in the top

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/20 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did you notice that you can actually tab between the fields of the login dialog? Yes, that is in HTML. After that the user opens another page, and only then opens the Java applet. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-20 Thread Marc Shapiro
Dotan Cohen wrote: There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes some work to get to. I would have expected better of Technion! If this is actually a java problem then they should use something else. If this is not a java problem, then Technion ought to have better

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-18 Thread Adam Hardy
Ron Johnson on 18/05/08 00:05, wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 17:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One simple minded suggestion: try CTRL-I. That emits a tab character in many contexts. But given the above, it probably won't work

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/18 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Back to tabbing in Java, I think you should be able to do something about it if you are the Java applet programmer, like another poster said. Theoretically it might be impossible but that's unlikely. But as for client-side options, I don't think Java

Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
My university's math department put up terrible little inaccesable Java applets for homework. In particular, the tab key does not move between text input fields. Is this a known issue with Java, or does Java use some key combination other than tab to move between fields? I am a heavy keyboard user

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 13:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: My university's math department put up terrible little inaccesable Java applets for homework. In particular, the tab key does not move between text input fields. Is this a known issue with Java, I see the same

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/17 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Somewhere in your Uni is a Dean who's job it is to see that no one's rights are violated. If that Dean refuses to help, there are rights activists galore, and, finally, letters to the editor of the school newspaper. No progressive Uni likes to see

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Saturday 17 May 2008 13:16:06 Dotan Cohen wrote: Regardless of the mentality of my university, is there a client-side fix for this technical problem? Here is an all else fails method: use the Java applet under Windows XP in a virtual machine, such as VirtualBox. This is horrible in a

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread John Hasler
Wesley J. Landaker writes: Here is an all else fails method: use the Java applet under Windows XP in a virtual machine, such as VirtualBox. This is horrible in a software freedom (and annoying hassle) perspective, but will almost certainly get the job done. It would also require that he

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/17 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 17 May 2008 13:16:06 Dotan Cohen wrote: Regardless of the mentality of my university, is there a client-side fix for this technical problem? Here is an all else fails method: use the Java applet under Windows XP in a virtual

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Saturday 17 May 2008 14:56:23 Dotan Cohen wrote: Even in Windows there is no ability to tab between the text fields in this particular Java applet. Or in all Java applets, for all I know. Actually, that is my question. Does Java use a different method of keyboarding between fields? Well,

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/18 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 17 May 2008 14:56:23 Dotan Cohen wrote: Even in Windows there is no ability to tab between the text fields in this particular Java applet. Or in all Java applets, for all I know. Actually, that is my question. Does Java use a

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 16:31, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/18 Wesley J. Landaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] One simple minded suggestion: try CTRL-I. That emits a tab character in many contexts. But given the above, it probably won't work either. Thanks. I

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One simple minded suggestion: try CTRL-I. That emits a tab character in many contexts. But given the above, it probably won't work either. Thanks. I tried Ctrl-l, but it did not work. Neither did any other Ctrl-char for that matter. But good thinking

Re: Tab in Java

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 17:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One simple minded suggestion: try CTRL-I. That emits a tab character in many contexts. But given the above, it probably won't work either. Thanks. I tried Ctrl-l, but

I vs l (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did try with the lowercase version of the key between k and ;. But one can never be too sure. Just in case there are those who don't know, in most fonts the uppercase eye glyph is one pixel shorter than the lowercase el glyph, which is the maximum

Re: I vs l (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 18:41, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did try with the lowercase version of the key between k and ;. But one can never be too sure. Just in case there are those who don't know, in most fonts the uppercase

Re: I vs l (Was: Tab in Java)

2008-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually I'm using text-only email on Gmail, but I do have a variable-width font in use. Your point is well taken, and I will now be on the lookout for a new default font that makes a better distinction. Thanks! And, of course, all GUI apps, like

reportbug (was Re: I vs l (Was: Tab in Java))

2008-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/17/08 19:41, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/18 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] As I don't have a MTA installed for bugreport, I filed at Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/231508 It's been years since reportbug needed a local