Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 26 iun 10, 23:08:56, ABS Doug wrote: absd...@aceraspireonezg5:~$ iwconfig -a -aNo such device Try 'iwconfig' instead. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-27 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Sackville-West and...@swclan.homelinux.org wrote: I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff in the other thread about what versions work and don't work,

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-26 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Sackville-West and...@swclan.homelinux.org wrote: I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff in the other thread about what versions work and don't work, and

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 17:18:21, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: When someone sends you a direct email, the expectation is that you will send a direct reply. No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. I think you

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote: [problems with torrents] If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while. Did you get to trying wired only? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 12:01 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:44:17PM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: .snip Ok now I REALIZE what people have been trying to communicate. I hope I can help those smarter than I... please REALIZE, we noobs don't even KNOW

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/21/2010 01:06 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote: [problems with torrents] If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while. Did you get to trying wired only? I don't think he can. -- Seek

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. That's what I thought... well we're all going to have to live with a mistake

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there. correct me if i get it wrong. My visual

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: It sounds like the most effective thing you could do would be to pick up a comprehensive Linux book and spend some quality time with it. I do have a book. It is quite handy I do read it often. The CLI stuff... I'd have

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 21. 06. 2010 04:10:28 je H.S. napisal(a): I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy driver, or buggy firmware on the wireless card, or both, can cause wireless connectivity problems over time. It

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 17:30, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following, in the given order. 1. Try a safe torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good example). The idea is to

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 23:10, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured, which is also the case of ABS Doug. port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance. if the number

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:30:56AM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything should be solved. but i have no idea on

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Stephen Fishpaste
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:26:17AM +0800, Huang, Tao wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:30 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but that isn't gunna

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/19/2010 11:53 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I send you mail in private, and the gmail interface is so bad that you don't notice. So, either post the .torrent so that other can test it, or keep your problems to yourself. Not gmail, I probably did that. Habit as I don't want to be rude send to the

Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 01:52 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/19/2010 11:53 PM, ABS Doug wrote: I send you mail in private, and the gmail interface is so bad that you don't notice. So, either post the .torrent so that other can test it, or keep your problems to yourself. Not gmail, I probably did that.

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 06. 2010 09:59:55 je Ron Johnson napisal(a): For the first time since I bought it, I just had to reboot my router! Doug's torrent was 86% complete. Call me paranoid (many people do), but I have a strong hunch that, in order to subvert the bittorrent protocol and eventually

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, etc maybe? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, etc maybe? On the contrary, I do almost all my shopping at

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 4:44 AM: On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and not enough at Newegg, Fryes, etc maybe? On

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/19/10 02:02, ABS Doug wrote: I still don't have an answer. It would seem for the 1st time in my life, I've reached a point were I can't figure something out. Here is what I've tried: -Lowered upload speed below 50% of total upload capacity (fail). -Lowered the number of peers, both

Re: This is why gmail sucks (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 05:58 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 4:44 AM: On 06/20/2010 04:04 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 6/20/2010 1:52 AM: Gee, I've got a lot of Linksys kit... It didn't used to be like that.) Too much shopping at WorstBuy et al and

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:31 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Call me paranoid (many people do), but I have a strong hunch that, in order to subvert the bittorrent protocol and eventually dismantle its user base, the media majors are flooding the Internet with intentionally

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: When someone sends you a direct email, the expectation is that you will send a direct reply. No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: pan2, unrar and par2 got me over my distrust of multi-part downloads. Yep. Funny thing too, these days I almost *NEVER* find anything incomplete or corrupted. I only download par2 files run the check... can't remember

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following, in the given order. 1. Try a safe torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good example). The idea is to exclude the possibility of using bad or

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:23 PM, ABS Doug wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: pan2, unrar and par2 got me over my distrust of multi-part downloads. Yep. Funny thing too, these days I almost *NEVER* find anything incomplete or corrupted. I only download

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 04:30 PM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip] I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up trying to run a splitter at some point,

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 17:54, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/2010 04:30 PM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip] I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up

Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:18 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote: No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all. nah, read the code of conduct http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:30 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up trying to run

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: [snip] torrents over wireless can be very tricky. Why? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 21:55, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: [snip] torrents over wireless can be very tricky. Why? I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy driver, or buggy

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:10 AM, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/20/10 21:55, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/20/2010 08:26 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: [snip] torrents over wireless can be very tricky. Why? I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote: you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured, which is also the case of ABS Doug. port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance. if the number of connections is not limited, the

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Tim Clewlow t...@clewlow.org wrote: What do you have to do to get the connection back? Restart networking on the torrent client computer, or, restart the modem/router, or perhaps you have a separate firewall that requires a (networking) restart. The answer to

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Zoran Kolic zko...@sbb.rs wrote: He-he! Contrary. I assume poster tries to solve the problem himself first. Aside of being polite, it is a fun to learn new things. Some lists, like openbsd ones, ask you to do various steps toward answer to the question.

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] -Error messages: Don't know where to look. Visual indication is Skype is offline internet is offline so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-20 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:44:17PM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: .snip Ok now I REALIZE what people have been trying to communicate. I hope I can help those smarter than I... please REALIZE, we noobs don't even KNOW what info to give until the pros ask! Dmesg? Ok, I

Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going on here. Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 was unable to handle downloading torrents. The connection would drop. I tried every torrent client. I tried lowering the connections. Nothing I tried worked. I ended up downgrading to Ubuntu

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Nuno Magalhães
1. Try to use the enter key more often. 2. I don't give a rat's ass whether you use GNU/Linux or not. 3. Maybe your hardware is faulty? Do you know what hardware you're using (nic please)? 4. My heart's not gonna skip a beat if you go back to Windows™. 5. Have you tried tunning your torrent

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: Send me the torrent and I'll try it out. I've tried over 20 torrents, they all do the same thing. Thank for thinking of that though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:02 PM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote: I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going on here. [snippity snip snip snippin' lots 'o text] The reality is, you've put in a lot of work and are frustrated. Understood. But, this is not the Rants

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Eero Volotinen
Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router.. -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote: Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables and eating cpu). You should buy more powerful router.. Um, no. I have the identical router and have never

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/19/2010 1:02 AM, ABS Doug wrote: [snip rant] Torrents are trouble. Avoid them, if practical. Your ISP may be throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of Ubuntu would make. However, if a Windows client works, then ask yourself if you need Linux for other

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 19. 06. 2010 08:15:01 je Nuno Magalhães napisal(a): mlnet never gave me trouble and it's on 24/7 I'll second that. The only drawback is, mlnet doesn't implement the upload/download ratio required by certain torrents/trackers, so you appear to them not to be uploading at all;

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 19. juni 2010 09:38, skrev Mark: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi mailto:eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One I think your torrent client is killing the router. (filling nat tables and eating cpu). You should

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Håkon Alstadheim ha...@alstadheim.priv.nowrote: Den 19. juni 2010 09:38, skrev Mark: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fiwrote: Equipment: WRT54G, Acer Aspire One I think your torrent client is killing the router.

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Clewlow
at some point, minutes, hours, I'll loose my internet connection. . What do you have to do to get the connection back? Restart networking on the torrent client computer, or, restart the modem/router, or perhaps you have a separate firewall that requires a (networking) restart. The answer to

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote: [problems with torrents] If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Andrew Reid
On Saturday 19 June 2010 02:02:17 ABS Doug wrote: I can't believe I'm still totally unable to figure out what is going on here. Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 was unable to handle downloading torrents. [etc.] Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large downloads? What

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread ABS Doug
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of something? Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of course. Is the anything

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/19/2010 11:59 PM, ABS Doug wrote: On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reidrei...@bellatlantic.net wrote: Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large downloads? What happens if you try to pull a few megs of something? Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Tim Clewlow
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:  Is this only true of torrents, or is it also true of large downloads?  What happens if you try to pull a few megs of something? Usenet seems to work fine. But there I'm downloading in pieces of course. Is the

Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-19 Thread Zoran Kolic
Or just used Windows. I mean it works it would seem there are a fair amount of people that really don't like requests for help on the Linux E-mail help lists. He-he! Contrary. I assume poster tries to solve the problem himself first. Aside of being polite, it is a fun to learn new things.