On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:57:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 07:57:25PM -0400, Justin F. Knotzke wrote:
I used RedHat a few years ago for about a month and rpm gave me such
a headache that I bolted back to Debian.
Heck, when I was a regular Red Hat user, we
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:08:12 -0400
Justin F. Knotzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:46:37PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
It's being done, frighteningly enough. See http://freshrpms.net/
According to their examples, being done quite well at that. Surely
there
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-21 09:07:48 +0200]:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
I have been reading about these. But in what way are they broken?
They work fine for me in xterm in woody. What is broken about them?
[HOME] produces ESC-O-H and [END] produces
Moin Willi!
Willi Dyck schrieb am Tuesday, den 22. October 2002:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
Ever heard of ^a and ^e? Using bash?
~$ man bash for more info's
As stated before, that is not the
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 07:57:25PM -0400, Justin F. Knotzke wrote:
I used RedHat a few years ago for about a month and rpm gave me such
a headache that I bolted back to Debian.
Heck, when I was a regular Red Hat user, we ended up moving the
machines over to Debian because it was simply
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:32:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
Oh, poppycock. Users don't report bugs to do us any *favors*, they
report bugs out of self-interest. How many users go out of their way to
look for bugs that don't actually impede their use of the software?
Not many, however,
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0400, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
My understanding is that the original intention of the Debian BTS was to
be about packaging bugs - it has evolved beyond that partly as it is
handy to report any bugs, and for users that don't recognise the
difference between
Price, Erik wrote:
-Original Message-
From: David A. Rogers [mailto:darogers;speakeasy.net]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot
I did a quick check on the xfree86 site. It doesn't look
like the intense3d
I did a quick check on the xfree86 site. It doesn't look
like the intense3d
is supported.
The one thing you can do to make sure that installing Linux
is easy is to make
sure all your hardware is fully supported.
Hear that! I'm going to try to find a used video card. I
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:41:34PM -0400, Price, Erik wrote:
Um is that a driver, or a product? The answer is no to both,
though. That doesn't show up as one of the choices of driver when I
run `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`. In fact just about all of the
choices are 5-character
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:41:34 -0400 Price, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You *have* tried xserver-3dlabs, right?
Um is that a driver, or a product?
Neither it's a Debian package:
xserver-3dlabs - X server for 3DLabs GLINT and Permedia-based graphics
cards
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Jamin W. Collins
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Hello Price,,
On Oct 22, Price, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| You *have* tried xserver-3dlabs, right?
| Um is that a driver, or a product? The answer is no to both,
| though. That doesn't show up as one of the choices of driver when I
| run `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`. In fact
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:56:10 -0700
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip: about a reviewer's unfavorable comments about Debian]
I have to seriously question whether or not he knows what he's
talking about about RPM. I've used RPM recently. It's still painful
to use and terraparsecs
csj sez:
} On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:56:10 -0700
} Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
}
} [snip: about a reviewer's unfavorable comments about Debian]
}
} I have to seriously question whether or not he knows what he's
} talking about about RPM. I've used RPM recently. It's still painful
}
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:46:37PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
It's being done, frighteningly enough. See http://freshrpms.net/
According to their examples, being done quite well at that. Surely
there must be limitations if RedHat aren't using it themselves?
J.
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Justin F. Knotzke
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 05:08:12PM -0400, Justin F. Knotzke wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:46:37PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
It's being done, frighteningly enough. See http://freshrpms.net/
According to their examples, being done quite well at that. Surely
there must be
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:35:45PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
I don't see why...it takes a few seconds to pass on a bug.
If it only takes a few seconds, then why do you object to being asked to
do it yourself? ;)
Because frequently the developer knows what's expected out of the
other
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:59:11PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
I assumed it was a given that a maintainer asking a bug submitter to
take such an active role would provide such guidance as needed.
That's my understanding, too. And only one or two maintainers that
I've run into seem to follow
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:46:37PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote:
} Unless some people start a Debian-like project using rpm packages, the
} terraparsecs are going to stay. Imagine the consequences of a Redhat
} 9.0 system you can rpm-get to version 12.0. RPM and an XGUI-based
} installer is
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 07:31:24PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:35:45PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
I don't see why...it takes a few seconds to pass on a bug.
If it only takes a few seconds, then why do you object to being asked to
do it yourself? ;)
Because
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
[I am not subscribed to -user.]
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:51:33PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
echo expert ~/.dselect.cfg
Holy schnikes, Batman! Why isn't this obviously documented?
YM in the man page? Well, it is. You can also use dselect --expert of
course.
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see shy jo
msg08171/pgp0.pgp
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:49:34PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
You'll have to persuade the
[I am not subscribed to -user.]
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
You'll have to persuade the upstream bash/libreadline cabal that
actually supporting DEC VT100 and later terminal emulation is a
worthwhile
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
Without a doubt. Why not educate your friends about how their PCs work?
A fundamental problem today is that people don't understand the how and
why. To attempt to protect the user from how a PC operates is IMHO to
do much more harm than good.
I
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose
My problem is some
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
expect Debian developers to fix every problem. For instance, I suppose
My problem is some
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:04:43PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
submitter to work with upstream directly, or the maintainer has to add
the bug to the bottom of his own long TODO list.
I don't see why...it takes a few seconds to pass on a bug.
If a bug submitter comes to me with a well-formed
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:30:01PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:35:45PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 03:21:40PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
I don't see why...it takes a few seconds to pass on a bug.
If it only takes a few seconds, then
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 18:15, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:21:00PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 02:45:44PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Whining about Debian developers whining about upstream implies that you
expect Debian developers to fix
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 01:23:26PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:48AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
Say, is this the application mode thing? Cf. #133258.
I don't know, but if it isn't, adding this to
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From: Andrew Perrin [mailto:clists;perrin.socsci.unc.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 10:40 AM
To: Jamin W.Collins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot
I agree entirely. And I also think that most of the added
benefit of linux
over windows
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:07:48 +0200 Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- broken home/end keys in bash in xterm (even in Woody)
Sounds like a possible reason to use RXVT... never noticed that it's
broken in xterm as I've been using RXVT since before I moved to Debian.
However, I did just try
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