Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? When I initially looked at this I thought maybe, but it did not seem particularly friendly to do. More to the point, I

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 00:37:59 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Zenaan Harkness wrote: Cool :) Thanks for sharing. Appreciated. +1. I also think that is pretty cool. Since Message-Id is one of the few that would be passed through. However many clients do not do this. I have many

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread David Guntner
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? When I initially looked at this I thought maybe, but it did not seem

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? ... There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy mail to a local or remote MTA. More to the point,

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread David Guntner
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? ... There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy mail to a local

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-09 Thread Brian
On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 23:19:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: But I am a pedantic sort and so must say that every message does have To continue with the pedantry :) and to return to the issue raised in this subthread, a CC is not a duplicate of a list mail. Put them side by side and the difference is

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/10/13, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 23:19:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: But I am a pedantic sort and so must say that every message does have To continue with the pedantry :) and to return to the issue raised in this subthread, a CC is not a duplicate of a list

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Zenaan Harkness wrote: Brian wrote: Fortunately, Mutt users have the opportunity to take advantage of its ability to construct a custom Message-ID: header for a mail sent to debian-user. Like so: send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Message-ID:' send-hook 'debian-user@lists\.debian\.org' 'my_hdr

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-08 Thread Robert McKittrick
Somehow, I got on the debian help list. Pleas get me (mckitt1...@gmail.com) off. I think my problems were due to bad sectors on my hard drive. I will try again when I get a new one. I have the debian 1-8 i386 iso's burned to dvds. best of luck bob On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Bob Proulx

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 08 March 2013 16:40:50 Robert McKittrick wrote: Somehow, I got on the debian help list. Pleas get me (mckitt1...@gmail.com) off. I think my problems were due to bad sectors on my hard drive. I will try again when I get a new one. I have the debian 1-8 i386 iso's burned to dvds. We

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi Reisz wrote: In case anyone wishes to point out to Bob that this information is on the end of every email, it was not at the end of Bob's email, so give him the benefit of the doubt and spare him - please? I know what you meant and I agree. Confusingly there are also two Bobs in that

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-03 Thread Bob Proulx
David Guntner wrote: Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id and List-Post. Those are the standard headers and those are the best ones to use for filing mailing list messages. Smart MUAs use those to know how to do a list-reply. Therefore

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread David Guntner
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash.

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Be strict in what you send and generous in what you receive is still a good maxim to follow. I agree. And when I'm setting up a mail *server* (which typically services the needs of multiple

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread David Guntner
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: And face it, the scenario you describe above is not one I (or a number of other people) are likely to run into all that often. Possible, sure. Probable, not

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread Richard Hector
On 03/03/13 10:30, David Guntner wrote: Actually, I am seeking no such thing. What I *am* saying, however, is that if you (again, in the general sense, not necessarily specifically you) are going to come at someone with a that solution is no good for reason X, then it's only polite to

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-02 Thread David Guntner
Richard Hector grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 03/03/13 10:30, David Guntner wrote: I've worked at places where the attitude of management was along the lines of, If you're going to come to me with a complaint about the way something is being done, provide a possible solution. Otherwise I

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-01 Thread David Guntner
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null That's all there is to

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null That's all there is to it. The formail program is used to grab

Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread David Guntner
Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: AND PLEASE STOP HITTING REPLY ALL - I DON'T NEED TWO COPIES OF EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTINGS - REPLY TO THE LIST, ONLY If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a recipe that deletes the duplicate when things like that happen...

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Guntner wrote: Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: AND PLEASE STOP HITTING REPLY ALL - I DON'T NEED TWO COPIES OF EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTINGS - REPLY TO THE LIST, ONLY If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a recipe that deletes the duplicate when things

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread David Guntner
Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: AND PLEASE STOP HITTING REPLY ALL - I DON'T NEED TWO COPIES OF EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTINGS - REPLY TO THE LIST, ONLY If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Alois Mahdal
Hi Miles, hi everybody! On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:56:40 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Sure... thanks! Still, it's a good thing to train folks to reply appropriately :-) Holy ravioli! Training a troll? Gimme a break! BTW, I'd prefer good old Delete key. I use it a LOT,

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Guntner wrote: Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a recipe that deletes the duplicate when things like that happen... :-) Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. The bit of code below assumes that

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Alois Mahdal wrote: Hi Miles, hi everybody! On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:56:40 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Sure... thanks! Still, it's a good thing to train folks to reply appropriately :-) Holy ravioli! Training a troll? Gimme a break! BTW, I'd prefer good old Delete