Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-21 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 21/06/18 13:57, David Wright wrote: That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient at toasting if the bread is thin enough, but a toaster oven performs that role and many others too. But there are no USB toaster ovens: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/26/usb_toaster/

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 June 2018 11:40:07 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 21/06/18 01:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 June 2018 23:15:18 Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:57:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >>> That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 21/06/18 01:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 20 June 2018 23:15:18 Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:57:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient at toasting if the bread is thin enough, but a toaster oven

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 20 June 2018 23:15:18 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:57:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient at > >toasting if the bread is thin enough, but a toaster oven performs > >that role and many others too. > >

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/19/2018 07:43 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-06-19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: You either subscribe to Owlett's idiosyncratic, infuriatingly wrong-headed, utterly intractable and narrow world or you do not. I [the OP] state: "Who?" "ME?" "Idiosyncratic?" *ROFL*, SNICKER, CHUckle, chuckle ;/

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 08:57:14PM -0500, David Wright wrote: That's why we bought a toaster oven. A toaster is more efficient at toasting if the bread is thin enough, but a toaster oven performs that role and many others too. Except that it sucks for toast. :D

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Jun 2018 at 12:43:44 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2018-06-19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. > > > > Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even though I make

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 09:59:28 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Parallel doesn't necessarily mean 8 bit. And 100BaseT sends three voltage > levels over the differential pair, so it's a tad more than 1.5 bits per > "wire". But then, it's 4B5B (because it has to weave in the clock) so > it's a tad

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 09:11:43AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 08:02:11 AM Richard Hector wrote: > > On 19/06/18 23:47, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >>

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 08:43:44 AM Curt wrote: > I was going to tell DW upthread a tad that grilled bread was complicated > because all the complexity was built into the toaster. > > But I didn't. > > You either subscribe to Owlett's idiosyncratic, infuriatingly > wrong-headed, utterly

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 08:02:11 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 19/06/18 23:47, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. > > > > Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread Curt
On 2018-06-19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: >> So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. > > Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even though I make an often > feeble attempt to ignore it), I will mention that

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/06/18 23:47, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: >> So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. > > Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even though I make an often > feeble attempt to ignore it), I will mention

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27:55 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > So I think your cable is much less "Serial" than you think. Just because I'm tired of seeing this thread (even though I make an often feeble attempt to ignore it), I will mention that Ethernet is serial ;-) (full duplex in many

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/18/2018 10:27 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have what is essentially a "USB->Serial" - "Serial->USB" Cable. Ethernet is *NOT* involved - though there are topological similarities. I don't have factual knowledge of what you have, indeed, but you said: I have purchased a USB Host-Host

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have what is essentially a "USB->Serial" - "Serial->USB" Cable. > Ethernet is *NOT* involved - though there are topological similarities. I don't have factual knowledge of what you have, indeed, but you said: I have purchased a USB Host-Host cable based on the PL-25A1 chipset. While

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 17 Jun 2018 at 20:22:22 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/17/2018 05:04 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>That's your perspective (as someone who's stated that you have no experience > >>at this). From the perspective of the people who tried to help you, you've > >>chosen an obscure

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 06:04:35PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: Actually, IIUC the cable he got is basically two Ethernet-to-USB adapters connected together via an ethernet cable, all neatly packaged as a single physical object. So except for the fact that he can't use any of the

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/17/2018 05:04 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: That's your perspective (as someone who's stated that you have no experience at this). From the perspective of the people who tried to help you, you've chosen an obscure solution rather than a well-tested and well-documented solution for no apparent

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That's your perspective (as someone who's stated that you have no experience > at this). From the perspective of the people who tried to help you, you've > chosen an obscure solution rather than a well-tested and well-documented > solution for no apparent reason. (ROFL?) From the perspective of

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 06:31:41AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: All computing objects on site physically have such a connector. Are they connected to functional silicon? ?? ??? ;/ What else would they be connected to? It's almost as though you're looking for problems. (LOL?) IIUC there

A Bibliography [Re: USB Host-Host cables]

2018-06-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/13/2018 06:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I have purchased a USB Host-Host cable based on the PL-25A1 chipset. Where would discussion about using it be *ON TOPIC* ? It is recognized by Debian Stretch. I have found relevant bits-n-pieces in manpages and package info. I'm retired and my

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/15/2018 09:06 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 15 June 2018 06:37:57 Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/14/2018 08:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: and now you can access the other side via ssh and scp and whatever. I've never used

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-15 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 07:15:50AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/15/2018 05:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 06/14/2018 08:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > > and now you can access the other side via ssh and

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 15 June 2018 06:37:57 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/14/2018 08:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> and now you can access the other side via ssh and scp and > >>> whatever. > >> > >> I've never used either "ssh" or "scp".

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/15/2018 05:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/14/2018 08:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: and now you can access the other side via ssh and scp and whatever. I've never used either "ssh" or "scp". *THEREFORE* I believe I have a

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/14/2018 08:54 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: and now you can access the other side via ssh and scp and whatever. I've never used either "ssh" or "scp". *THEREFORE* I believe I have a reading assignment . After all, that was

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-14 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > and now you can access the other side via ssh and scp and > > whatever. > > > > I've never used either "ssh" or "scp". *THEREFORE* I believe I have a > reading assignment . After all, that was essentially what I was asking >

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-13 Thread Ulf Volmer
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 02:50:51PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/13/2018 09:57 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The plusb driver should detect it as a network interface. > > I don't find "plusb" in man pages or list of Debian packages. > I did find it mentioned in

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
[I'm subscribed to list] On 06/13/2018 09:57 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:29:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I have purchased a USB Host-Host cable based on the PL-25A1 chipset. Where would discussion about using it be *ON TOPIC* ? It is recognized by Debian Stretch. I

Re: USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-13 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:29:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have purchased a USB Host-Host cable based on the PL-25A1 chipset. > Where would discussion about using it be *ON TOPIC* ? > It is recognized by Debian Stretch. > I have found relevant bits-n-pieces in manpages and package info. >

USB Host-Host cables

2018-06-13 Thread Richard Owlett
I have purchased a USB Host-Host cable based on the PL-25A1 chipset. Where would discussion about using it be *ON TOPIC* ? It is recognized by Debian Stretch. I have found relevant bits-n-pieces in manpages and package info. I'm retired and my avocation is learning about Linux. I'm missing