Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, > On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 12:50:25 +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Who said Debian has moved completely to UTF-8 ? > > man, aptitude > > I thought these are not UTF ready. See BTS. > > > > I wish these were. So if you do, you need multiple locales. > > > > I suggest creating custom meny fo

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: > As a final minor issue, not critical for me by any means, when I use a > working pager like less to view the UTF-8-demon.txt file, the only text > that gives a problem (boxes) is Amharic Ethiopian. Same here. It seems the X11 fonts do not (yet

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 10:52:28 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2004-10-01 22:52:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > > I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to > > interpret them. :( > > It seems to be OK. You have the ASCII hyphen, and the correct UTF-8 > sequenc

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 12:43:08 +0200, Martin Dickopp wrote: > If you type > > PAGER=cat man cat > > do you see a coypright symbol in the "Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software > Foundation, Inc." line (i.e., in the place where I have written "(C)" > here)? If you type > > printf \\302\\251

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:03:49AM -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > Greetings, > > Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well > as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in > Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly: ... > S

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: > I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to > interpret them. :( They are likely not to be significant; you just seem to have a different version of the man page. If you type PAGER=cat man cat do you see a coypright s

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-10-01 22:52:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to > interpret them. :( It seems to be OK. You have the ASCII hyphen, and the correct UTF-8 sequence for the copyright symbol. If you do "man cat" and look at the COPYRIGHT se

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 10:18:45 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 16:39:20 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > It may be a problem with your terminal. I've attached a small file > > containing characters in UTF-8. Could you save it and cat it in your > > terminal to see if there a

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-01 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Friday 01 Oct 2004 01:54:19 +0200, Martin Dickopp wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: > > > Context: Debian unstable. [...] Since switching my locale to > > en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), > > I think "dpkg-reconfigure locales" takes of that, but just to be sur

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-01 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Friday 01 Oct 2004 01:52:13 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.01.0135 +0200]: > > > On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > > >> Greetings, > > >> Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locale

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: > Context: Debian unstable. [...] Since switching my locale to > en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), I think "dpkg-reconfigure locales" takes of that, but just to be sure, could you verify that /etc/locale.gen contains a line en_US.UTF-8 U

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.01.0135 +0200]: > > On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), > >> whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man pag

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Martin Dickopp
Arne GÃtje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: >> Greetings, >> Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), >> whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get >> strange chars, e.g.: > > AFAI

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 16:39:20 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2004-09-30 08:54:01 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > > Another solution which someone was kind enough to send me was to set > > LC_ALL to "C" before every invocation of "man", which works, but > > seems kludgy. > > This jus

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 08:54:01 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > Another solution which someone was kind enough to send me was to set > LC_ALL to "C" before every invocation of "man", which works, but > seems kludgy. This just deactivates non-ASCII characters, which should be replaced by ASCII charac

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 09:39:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > In an UTF-8 sequence, you shouldn't have a ^P; this is strange. > Now, Debian doesn't use the non-ASCII hyphen to make searching in > man pages easier (see /etc/groff/man.local). So, this seems to be > a bug in the procmailrc page (o

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), > whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get > strange chars, e.g.: > > man procmailrc (PAGER=/usr/bin/most) yields: > > "delivering and [E

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 15:06:56 +0800, Arne G?tje (?) wrote: > AFAIK, 'man' does not support UTF-8. Bad luck. :) > > Take a look here when the page is online again. > > http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu Thanks Arne, I'll save the url. Ironic, given the intent of unicode, that man pages

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Arne Götje (高盛華)
On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: > Greetings, > Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), > whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get > strange chars, e.g.: AFAIK, 'man' does not support UTF-8. Bad luck. :) Ta

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-29 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 08:43:40 +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well > > as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-29 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well > as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in > Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly:

UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-29 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
Greetings, Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly: xterm -u8 -fn \ '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1' It displa