Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-23 Thread Felix Miata
The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-21 06:30 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Because most mainstream hardware of the day, and since, is supported, >> none of the optionals are /needed/ (as long as a fully-functional >> DRM/KMS kernel module exists). The installation of the optional >> drivers

Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 01:14:31 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2021-01-20 23:58 (UTC-0600): > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, > >> not a > >> workchair and desk

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-21 at 13:35, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 21 ian 21, 06:30:16, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: >>> Because most mainstream hardware of the day, and since, is >>> supported, none of the optionals are /needed/ (as long as a >>> fully-functional

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 ian 21, 06:30:16, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: > > > The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > > > >> Felix Miata wrote: > > > >>> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > > > the upstream Xorg server still uses a

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> https://www.etymonline.com/word/amuse states that this is the "to, at" > prefix from Latin in a sense of "causing to", not the "not, without" one > from Greek. Funnily [oops, I guess I meant "amusingly"] enough, the two end up meaning kind of the same: in that what happens is that attention is

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: > The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > the upstream Xorg server still uses a graphics card specific driver if available. > >>> That was

Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2021-01-20 23:58 (UTC-0600): > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, >> not a >> workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of >> multitasking. My

[OT] Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, > not a > workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of > multitasking. My computers are general purpose tools for getting work done. >

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread Felix Miata
The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): >>> the upstream Xorg server still uses a graphics card >>> specific driver if available. >> That was exactly one of my points. "If available" equates to they are

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-20 at 19:32, Felix Miata wrote: > Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > >> On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Its life as a separate package then ceased as well. It was moved >>> into the server package. I never found an announcement to the >>>

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread Felix Miata
Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Its life as a separate package then ceased as well. It was moved into the >> server >> package. I never found an announcement to the effect, but I believe this >> move in >> effect made it

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-20 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > In 2008 a new technology DDX driver's development was begun: > > The new technology made it hardware independent, able to be used

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau (was: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card prop...)

2021-01-20 Thread Felix Miata
David Christensen composed on 2021-01-20 11:33 (UTC-0800): > I have a ~2011 Dell Latitude E6520 laptop with Nvidia Optimus graphics. > It has always required non-free firmware for the Wi-Fi. On Debian 9 > with the free nouveau driver, the graphics work fine; both internal and > external. I