Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-10 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:47:13 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 09 dec 20, 11:53:20, Celejar wrote: > > > > As to ProtonMail, as we've discussed in the past, I'm sort of tempted, > > but I'm not willing to give up standards based email, nor am I that > > interested in running their

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 09 dec 20, 11:53:20, Celejar wrote: > > As to ProtonMail, as we've discussed in the past, I'm sort of tempted, > but I'm not willing to give up standards based email, nor am I that > interested in running their proprietary (albeit apparently GPL?) bridge > application. Yes, lack of

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 09 dec 20, 19:06:27, Joe wrote: > > It's not more secure, (apart from using wifi only occasionally) but the > kind of people looking at other peoples' network activities are more > likely to target public wifi than to sit outside my house. It will > require significantly more resources and

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 10:03:59 -0500 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:00:41AM +, Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:49:44 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Mi, 09 dec 20, 10:21:46, Joe wrote: > > > > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:49:45 +0200 > > > > Andrei POPESCU

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:04:43 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 09 dec 20, 11:00:41, Joe wrote: > > > > I suppose it may depend on where you are. In the UK, public wifi > > normally uses no encryption, because there are no local staff who can > > help with problems. So any unencrypted protocol

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:03:33 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 08 dec 20, 17:37:43, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:00:44 -0500 > > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 > > > > Andrei

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 09 dec 20, 11:00:41, Joe wrote: > > I suppose it may depend on where you are. In the UK, public wifi > normally uses no encryption, because there are no local staff who can > help with problems. So any unencrypted protocol you use can be > overheard. It doesn't matter much whether the

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 11:00:41AM +, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:49:44 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Mi, 09 dec 20, 10:21:46, Joe wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:49:45 +0200 > > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > > On Ma, 08 dec 20, 12:27:40, Joe wrote: > > > > >

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I suppose it may depend on where you are. In the UK, public wifi > normally uses no encryption, because there are no local staff who can > help with problems. So any unencrypted protocol you use can be > overheard. Around here we have a mix: - for small businesses (like coffeehouses or

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:46:07AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 05:00:44PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > [...] > > > If something is free, you aren't the customer, you are the product. > > All generalizations suck. > chuckle, that was a good one. :) -H

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:49:44 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 09 dec 20, 10:21:46, Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:49:45 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Ma, 08 dec 20, 12:27:40, Joe wrote: > > > > > > > > This application is also useful with a home VPN server, if > >

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 09 dec 20, 10:21:46, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:49:45 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 08 dec 20, 12:27:40, Joe wrote: > > > > > > This application is also useful with a home VPN server, if you're > > > not trying to hide anything, but just want to use the Net > > >

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:49:45 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 08 dec 20, 12:27:40, Joe wrote: > > > > This application is also useful with a home VPN server, if you're > > not trying to hide anything, but just want to use the Net > > reasonably safely from an unsafe location e.g. Internet

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 08 dec 20, 17:37:43, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:00:44 -0500 > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 > > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > >Unless you have access

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 08 dec 20, 12:27:40, Joe wrote: > > This application is also useful with a home VPN server, if you're not > trying to hide anything, but just want to use the Net reasonably safely > from an unsafe location e.g. Internet cafe. You can tailor a set of > firewall rules to allow nothing in or

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-09 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 05:00:44PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [...] > If something is free, you aren't the customer, you are the product. All generalizations suck. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:00:44 -0500 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > ... > > > > >Unless you have access to a system on the internet to set up your own > > >VPN

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 02:48:26PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > ... > > >Unless you have access to a system on the internet to set up your own > >VPN server you have to rely on (paid) VPN providers. > > There are free ones as

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: ... >Unless you have access to a system on the internet to set up your own >VPN server you have to rely on (paid) VPN providers. There are free ones as well, e.g.: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/best-free-vpn I don't know how

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 09:43:31 +0100 wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:12:09AM +0100, john doe wrote: > > On 12/8/2020 1:50 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > >On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:27:25 +0200 > > >ellanios82 wrote: > > > > > >>  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no > >

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 11:44:36 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > 2. Access the internet from a different point in the world > >This done for some increase in privacy[1] and/or to pretend you > are in a different location (country) and/or to hide your traffic > from your ISP. > >Unless you

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 08 dec 20, 11:44:36, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 07 dec 20, 23:27:25, ellanios82 wrote: > >  Hi List   :) > > > > > >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific > > purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? > > This is quite vage. VPNs are

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 07 dec 20, 23:27:25, ellanios82 wrote: >  Hi List   :) > > >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific > purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? This is quite vage. VPNs are generally used for two purposes: 1. Connect a remote system (e.g. a

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 12/8/20 9:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:12:09AM +0100, john doe wrote: On 12/8/2020 1:50 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:27:25 +0200 ellanios82 wrote:  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific purpose, but

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:12:09AM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 12/8/2020 1:50 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > >On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:27:25 +0200 > >ellanios82 wrote: > > > >>  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no > >>specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread john doe
On 12/8/2020 1:50 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:27:25 +0200 ellanios82 wrote:  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? With no requirements, it is difficult to say. Will a VPN be

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:27:25 +0200 ellanios82 wrote: >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no > specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? With no requirements, it is difficult to say. Will a VPN be overkill? Would you be better off with openSSH to

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 04:35:09PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 11:27:25PM +0200, ellanios82 wrote: > >  Hi List   :) > > > > > >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific > > purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? > > >

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread ellanios82
On 12/7/20 11:35 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 11:27:25PM +0200, ellanios82 wrote:  Hi List   :)  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ??  - and , is this a reasonable idea ? It

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 12/7/20 11:27 PM, ellanios82 wrote: >  Hi List   :) > > >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no > specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? > >  - and , is this a reasonable idea ? > > Hey ellanios82, many people and companies use openvpn here

Re: VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 11:27:25PM +0200, ellanios82 wrote: >  Hi List   :) > > >  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific > purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ?? > >  - and , is this a reasonable idea ? > It is difficult to know since you don't

VPN ideas

2020-12-07 Thread ellanios82
 Hi List   :)  - any suggestions please , for a handy VPN for everyday use : no specific purpose, but only to add a little more privacy ??  - and , is this a reasonable idea ?  regards  ellan