Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 08:58:25AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2015/10/12 7:14 "Lisi Reisz" : > > > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > > > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > > > > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > Please don't top post on the debian-use

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Gener Badenas
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:07 AM, brian wrote: > > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet > service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total > up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned > autoplay videos on various news

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Joel Rees
2015/10/12 7:14 "Lisi Reisz" : > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mar

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
Granted, I am not sure what sites you wish to visit. still, because lynx in its updated form mirrors the functions of some mobile platforms, you might be amazed how well sites display with it. especially the m. editions. Web designers are understanding that there are still some people who are

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> El 11/10/15 a la

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Please don't go all pedantic on us! On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: El 11/10/15 a las 13:13, moxalt escribió: Seriously, though, as much as you dread returni

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > El 11/10/15 a las 13:13, moxalt escribió: > >Seriously, though, as much as you dread returning to lynx, it is the most > >bandwith-friendly option on the table. If you d

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Last time I checked, most sites don't display properly with lynx because they are not designed for text-based browses. All on the contrary, most web sites are full of useless images, but nonetheless, not displaying them breaks those sites. There may be application for those browsers (like read

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Seriously, though, as much as you dread returning to lynx, it is the most bandwith-friendly option on the table. If you don't want videos of any kind, and are content with just plaintext (and separately downloadable images) you should be safe. What's so bad about lynx?

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 05:56:40 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 10 October 2015 17:35:20 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I've got Chrome set in Preferences to "Ask" before running ANY > > > plugin. > > > > When you say "preferences" where exactly do you

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread brian
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:07:30 -0400, you wrote: > >My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet >service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total >up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned >autoplay videos on various news sites

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 11/10/2015 9:59 AM, edonkey2001-deb...@yahoo.it wrote: > Get Policeman addon, go to Manage rule sets: > Enable "Allow any request" > Then go to Edit custom rules, and add a persistent rule: > Reject media, leaving origin and destination fields empty. > > You can't now watch any video on any web

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 10 October 2015 17:35:20 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I've got Chrome set in Preferences to "Ask" before running ANY > > plugin. > > When you say "preferences" where exactly do you mean? From Chrome Main Menu Settings->Show Advance Settings->Con

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread edonkey2001-debian
Get Policeman addon, go to Manage rule sets: Enable "Allow any request" Then go to Edit custom rules, and add a persistent rule: Reject media, leaving origin and destination fields empty. You can't now watch any video on any website, they won't even get downloaded, regardless of Javascript settin

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Felix Miata
Carl Fink composed on 2015-10-10 16:29 (UTC-0400): > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 02:55:14PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> What is there for HTML5 video, which isn't a plugin? >> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cramer-why-im-rethinking-view-221140224.html >> plays on load, even though I have NoScript def

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Curt
On 2015-10-10, Felix Miata wrote: > >> Seems there is a boolean option for Firefox versions 8 and above that >> can be toggled (about:config in the address bar) > >> plugins.click_to_play > >> which may satisfy your needs. > >> https://security.berkeley.edu/faq/web-browsing/how-do-i-enable-click-p

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 02:55:14PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > What is there for HTML5 video, which isn't a plugin? > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cramer-why-im-rethinking-view-221140224.html > plays on load, even though I have NoScript defaulting to JS disabled, until I > click its pause button.

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 22:04 +0200, Timothy Hobbs wrote: > Are you sure that noscript doesn't block video in iceweasel when > fully > enabled? It claims to block and tags. It depends. In the case of the yahoo video mentioned above, the video is served up from yahoo.com, so it isn't blocked unles

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Are you sure that noscript doesn't block video in iceweasel when fully enabled? It claims to block and tags. On 10/10/15 21:56, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 21:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Sounds like Mozilla have improved the support for stopping auto -playing video, but y

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 21:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > Sounds like Mozilla have improved the support for stopping auto > -playing > video, but you need version 41 (in experimental): Okay so upon further reading it seems that it doesn't auto-play, but still downloads the video, so that feature

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 12:07 -0400, brian wrote: > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet > service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB > total > up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned > autoplay videos on various news

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Timothy Hobbs
However, with noscript enabled and yahoo blocked (I had to do that manually by pressing the icon), the video does not play. On 10/10/15 21:35, Timothy Hobbs wrote: I have been playing with this after you posted that link, and it is really quite frustrating. It seems that there are several optio

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Timothy Hobbs
I have been playing with this after you posted that link, and it is really quite frustrating. It seems that there are several options in "about:config" which should allow me to either disable video completely or at least disable webm (search about:config for "media") however, none of them seem

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 11/10/2015 5:06 AM, Curt wrote: > Seems there is a boolean option for Firefox versions 8 and above that > can be toggled (about:config in the address bar) > > plugins.click_to_play > > which may satisfy your needs. > > https://security.berkeley.edu/faq/web-browsing/how-do-i-enable-click-pla

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Interestingly, I would say that this is one of those cases that makes the case for trademark. I cannot keep Adblock, Adblock Plus, uBlock, and uBlock origin straight, and neither can most people. Tim On 10/10/15 21:17, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 11/10/2015 5:16 AM, Timothy Hobbs wrote: Be c

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 11/10/2015 5:16 AM, Timothy Hobbs wrote: > Be careful of AdBlock: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock#Acceptable_Ads_Program_and_sale > > Use uBlock instead. I would say uBlock Origin -- it seems to be a better option to uBlock from what I've heard. Cheers A.

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Felix Miata
Curt composed on 2015-10-10 18:06 (UTC): >brian wrote: >> My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet >> service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total >> up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned >> autoplay videos on va

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Tor adds overhead because it is another layer of encapsulation (on top of TCP/IP), it adds padding to messages (to improve confidentiality), and it needs to transmit extra data because of its cryptographic design (signatures, MAC, public keys). It doesn't seems like a good approach since the go

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Be careful of AdBlock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdBlock#Acceptable_Ads_Program_and_sale Use uBlock instead. Tim On 10/10/15 19:59, John Hasler wrote: NoScript will block the videos (you will want to configure it). You'll also want AdBlock. Also go into Perferences in Firefox and set it

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Curt
On 2015-10-10, brian wrote: > > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet > service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total > up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned > autoplay videos on various news sites. Pat is using

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread John Hasler
NoScript will block the videos (you will want to configure it). You'll also want AdBlock. Also go into Perferences in Firefox and set it up for the most restrictive configuration you can tolerate. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/10/2015 3:07 AM, brian wrote: > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only > internet service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of > 250 MB total up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away > by these damn

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
It seems like NoScript will do the job. I think that it allows YouTube by default once installed, but you can easily disable it after installing (along with the other sites it enables by default). Since most sites depend on JavaScript to embed videos, that will block most of them. I don't know

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 10 October 2015 17:35:20 Patrick Bartek wrote: > I've got Chrome set in Preferences to "Ask" before running ANY plugin. When you say "preferences" where exactly do you mean? Lisi

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, brian wrote: > > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet > service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total > up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned > autoplay videos on various news sites. Pat i

Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-10 Thread brian
My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned autoplay videos on various news sites. Pat is using Wheezy, I'm using Jessie - short of g