Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-23 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/23/2010 9:51 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote: On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote: I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. Nested Virtu

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/09/10 00:51, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote: I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. >

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote: >>> >>> I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. >>> Nested Virtualization is very difficult and

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-23 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/22/2010 9:56 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: This is the exception that proves the rule. I still think that doing it under an AMD64 or Intel x86_64 is probably futile under the current state-of -the-art. Nested virtualization is *not* the point or objective of the exercise - enabling installa

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/10 07:38, Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/22/2010 3:14 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> That may be true for some virtualization software, but not for all. >> My "day job" is as a system programmer for IBM mainframe systems, >> and among my duties is responsibility for a z/VM system. In z/VM, >> ne

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote: >> >> I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. >> Nested Virtualization is very difficult and kind of pointless. A few >> security researchers[0] have done it, mo

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/10 05:34, Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/21/2010 6:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Someone with more knowledge of the history of Virtual PC may be able to >> explain those similarities. > > Microsoft did not create VPC, they bought it from Connectix. It's >

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/09/10 05:29, Mark Allums wrote: > On 9/21/2010 6:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> To satisfy my curiosity I have been trying (without success) to get >> Debian installed and running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC. >> >> What I have discovered is that:- >> 1

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/22/2010 3:14 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: That may be true for some virtualization software, but not for all. My "day job" is as a system programmer for IBM mainframe systems, and among my duties is responsibility for a z/VM system. In z/VM, nested virtualization is not difficult, pointless, o

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote: > > I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. > Nested Virtualization is very difficult and kind of pointless. A few > security researchers[0] have done it, mostly as a stunt to prove a > technical point,

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/21/2010 6:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Someone with more knowledge of the history of Virtual PC may be able to explain those similarities. Microsoft did not create VPC, they bought it from Connectix. It's provenance probably includes a lot of old code from various places. I us

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-22 Thread Mark Allums
On 9/21/2010 6:51 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: To satisfy my curiosity I have been trying (without success) to get Debian installed and running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC. What I have discovered is that:- 1. If you run Windoof 7 in VirtualBox (under Debian) it runs fine - given an inordinate amount

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-21 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
On Tuesday 21 September 2010 15:34:41 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 21/09/10 22:59, John Hasler wrote: > > Scott Ferguson writes: > >> 3. It would require reverse-engineering - which is bad > > > > No it isn't. I noted that Microsoft claims that it is illegal, but that > > is not the same thing at al

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
dge they'd just completed while a legion marched over it. There's a responsibility that comes with the money (and the rattle of a stick in the swill bucket). That's the product. Now if I can just find the time to make Virtual PC work - then anyone with non-Admin access to Windoof 7

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-21 Thread John Hasler
Scott Ferguson writes: > 3. It would require reverse-engineering - which is bad No it isn't. I noted that Microsoft claims that it is illegal, but that is not the same thing at all. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

2010-09-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
Regarding post "ps - illegal instruction" by Jerry Stuckle To satisfy my curiosity I have been trying (without success) to get Debian installed and running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC. What I have discovered is that:- 1. If you run Windoof 7 in VirtualBox (under Debian) it runs fine

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-13 Thread Sam Kuper
Some people like OpenVZ, though I'm not sure how comparable it is to MS's product.

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-13 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 02:20:40PM +0100, pch wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. I like VirtualBox. I had been using VMWare, but kept running into problems every time there was a kernel update, when I had to search around for patches an

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Doug Mitton wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:40:19 +0100, you wrote: References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pch wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. I don't know MS Virtual PC, but I use the VMware server with good result. The only complaint

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread Doug Mitton
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:40:19 +0100, you wrote: References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >pch wrote: >> Hello, >> Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. >> > >I don't know MS Virtual PC, but I use the VMware server with good >resu

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
pch wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. I don't know MS Virtual PC, but I use the VMware server with good result. The only complaint: VMware is slow to adapt their *closed* source to new kernels, e.g. server 1.0.7 to linux 2.6.27.

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread Mark Allums
pch wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. > > Pawel > > Heh, heh, heh... :) Uh, go with virtualbox. There are two versions, the open source and the closed source. The closed source is free to use for personal use, bu

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread Feng King
Try kvm,you will like it. as fast as i can see 2008/11/9 pch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. > > Pawel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a > subject of "unsubscri

Re: Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread Bipin Babu
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:20 AM, pch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. > > Pawel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". >

Virtual PC

2008-11-09 Thread pch
Hello, Can anyone recommend a good virtual machine, equivalent MS Virtual PC. Pawel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem installing Debian/Etch on Virtual PC

2008-03-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
MAIL PROTECTED] >> I was told to install Debian on MS Virtual PC for a class. I >> think I'm getting kernel hang >> The last line is "Freeing unused kernel memory 256k freed" >> This is the download I used "debian-40r3-i386-netinst" I've tested th

Re: Problem installing Debian/Etch on Virtual PC

2008-03-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
ble at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ ) I have CC'ed that mailing list. Please remove the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients when you reply. Make sure you say which version of Virtual PC you use in your mail (VPC 2007 ; English ; 32 bits ??). I don't have VPC, but I h

Re: Using a 2.6 stock kernel with Virtual PC 7.0.2

2005-07-19 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 6, 2005, at 6:20 PM, Barry Hawkins wrote: Has anyone managed to get a Virtual PC instance on Mac OS X to boot one of the stock 2.6 kernels? My instance boots up without issue on a 2.4 kernel, but there's an immediate oops when t

Using a 2.6 stock kernel with Virtual PC 7.0.2

2005-07-06 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone managed to get a Virtual PC instance on Mac OS X to boot one of the stock 2.6 kernels? My instance boots up without issue on a 2.4 kernel, but there's an immediate oops when trying to use either the current 2.6.8 or 2

Re: Configure X on virtual pc 2004

2005-07-06 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 9, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Michael Martinell wrote: I just downloaded 3.01 r5 and wanted to try it out. I set up an virtual pc 2004 session in and installed it. I can only get X to start in 256 color 640x480 mode. Not a very useful mode. I

Configure X on virtual pc 2004

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Martinell
I just downloaded 3.01 r5 and wanted to try it out. I set up an virtual pc 2004 session in and installed it. I can only get X to start in 256 color 640x480 mode. Not a very useful mode. I have tried just about every combination of xf86config and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 however I

Re: Debian Display on Virtual PC 2004

2004-08-31 Thread David Sanders
On Monday 30 August 2004 23:49, Benny Wong wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed the testing Debian (Sarge) on Microsoft Virtual > PC 2004. I am new to linux and am still poking around. > > I installed a base system and I installed x-window-system and gnome by > using

Re: Debian Display on Virtual PC 2004

2004-08-31 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 11:49:46PM -0400, Benny Wong wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed the testing Debian (Sarge) on Microsoft Virtual > PC 2004. I am new to linux and am still poking around. > > I installed a base system and I installed x-window-system and gnome by &g

Re: Debian Display on Virtual PC 2004

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Ferguson
(PDT), Sysmin Sys73m47ic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I recently installed the testing Debian (Sarge) on > > Microsoft Virtual > > PC 2004. I am new to linux and am still poking > > around. > > I think that Microsoft is the key word here. Lol. Ok, > all

Re: Debian Display on Virtual PC 2004

2004-08-31 Thread Sysmin Sys73m47ic
> I recently installed the testing Debian (Sarge) on > Microsoft Virtual > PC 2004. I am new to linux and am still poking > around. I think that Microsoft is the key word here. Lol. Ok, all joking aside. This is a new product for Microsoft and they are probably still ironing out the b

Debian Display on Virtual PC 2004

2004-08-30 Thread Benny Wong
Hello, I recently installed the testing Debian (Sarge) on Microsoft Virtual PC 2004. I am new to linux and am still poking around. I installed a base system and I installed x-window-system and gnome by using the 'apt-get install ...'. When I startx, they display is VERY wide and unv

Re: Debian install on Virtual PC / OS X

2004-01-08 Thread Dave's List Addy
On 1/8/04 3:03 PM, "David Z Maze" wrote: > If I understand what Virtual PC does properly, the actual hardware > inside the Mac is somewhat irrelevant; you'd need to figure out what > network hardware Virtual PC is emulating and use a driver for that. Okay that makes s

Re: Debian install on Virtual PC / OS X

2004-01-08 Thread David Z Maze
"Dave's List Addy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am trying to install the latest Debian with the ISO > bf2.4-3.023-netinst. I am doing this with Virtual PC 6.1 on an Apple > iMac 17 " Flat Panel with a G4 1.25 MHz. I can get the install to > boot and

Debian install on Virtual PC / OS X

2004-01-08 Thread Dave's List Addy
I am trying to install the latest Debian with the ISO bf2.4-3.023-netinst. I am doing this with Virtual PC 6.1 on an Apple iMac 17 " Flat Panel with a G4 1.25 MHz. I can get the install to boot and start, my problem is on selecting the correct Network driver for the iMac. I tried Tulip and

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-17 Thread bob parker
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:25, Adelle L. Hartley wrote: > > For S3Trio chipsets > > apt-get install xserver-s3 > > I have done the above, and modified the "Device" section > of my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to read > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Generic Video Card" > Driver "s3" >

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-15 Thread Adelle L. Hartley
Woohoo! It works. I edited the the configuration file to use the "vesa" driver. Don't really care right now if there is a better driver available for the s3 card. Haven't got the sound working yet, but that's a subject for another day. Thankyou! > > For S3Trio chipsets > apt-get install xserve

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-13 Thread Adelle L. Hartley
> For S3Trio chipsets > apt-get install xserver-s3 I have done the above, and modified the "Device" section of my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to read Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "s3" BusID "PCI:00:08:0" VideoRam8192 EndSection The ou

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-10 Thread Kent West
Adelle L. Hartley wrote: I am too much of a newbie at this to have even figured out how to go back to the bash prompt. (I'll have to figure that out before I attempt to change anything else). Ctrl-Alt-F2 should get you to the second virtual terminal (VT) console. At that point, you can kill your X

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-10 Thread bob parker
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:25, Michael Martinell wrote: > It appears that xfree86 does not support the base S3 card after 3.3.6. It > only supports the savage series. > > Is there a recommended downgrade path that works? > > Or in other words, what would the apt-get command for this be? For S3Trio ch

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-10 Thread Adelle L. Hartley
OK, I now seem to be making some progress, although not quite enough. Following advice received on this list, I have used "lspci" to get the bus id of the video card, and then by running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" a few times, I have managed to get x-windows to start in 300x200 mode, using

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Kent West
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:05:01PM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | I have tried the vga driver with no success. | | How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up | empty. lspci. For example, a machine here at work needed me to specify t

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:05:01PM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | I have tried the vga driver with no success. | | How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up | empty. lspci. For example, a machine here at work needed me to specify the busID. lspci on that machin

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Martinell
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Virtual PC 5.2 I have tried the vga driver with no success. How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up empty. -Original Message- From: Derrick 'dman' Hudson [mai

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Martinell
I have tried the vga driver with no success. How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up empty. -Original Message- From: Derrick 'dman' Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:53:29AM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | It lists it as a VGA Compatible controller S3 Inc 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64+] Try the 'vga' driver. It might not be as good as the s3 driver on real hardware, but it should at least be operational and give you something to start

RE: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Martinell
: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual PC 5.2 Michael Martinell wrote: > > > I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck > with virtual pc. > > > > If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the s

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Kent West
Michael Martinell wrote: I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck with virtual pc. If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the startx for the virtual pc environment I would be interested. I know that it works, as I had it running with Knoppix at

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Martinell
  I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck with virtual pc.   If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the startx for the virtual pc environment I would be interested.  I know that it works, as I had it running with Knoppix at one time

Re: Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Kent West
Adelle L. Hartley wrote: I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) The first part of the install works fine, but I am having trouble getting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config file to use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a mistake somewhere. The output

Virtual PC 5.2

2003-12-09 Thread Adelle L. Hartley
Hi, I hope this is the place for newbie questions... I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) The first part of the install works fine, but I am having trouble getting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config file to use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a

Re: Problem trying to start X-windows in a Debiam 3.0 installation under Virtual PC

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Dresser
to be able to > help you, we need some info. To begin with, what video card do you have > installed? Virtual PC may be different, but under vmware at least, you tell X you have a vmware "video card" and vmware handles how to talk to your real card. VMware could hypothetically r

Re: Problem trying to start X-windows in a Debiam 3.0 installation under Virtual PC

2003-09-17 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 20:39, Jaime Ash wrote: > Does anybody in this group have any clues? Yes. According to your logs, you have selected the nvidia driver, but that driver thinks there is no nvidia card in your pc. So, to be able to help you, we need some info. To begin with, what video card do

Problem trying to start X-windows in a Debiam 3.0 installation under Virtual PC

2003-09-17 Thread Jaime Ash
I have successfully installed Debian 3.0 running under Connectix Virtual PC software on an HP Pavilion 8760C PC, with Windows 2000 as the host OS for the Connectix software – but, while it seems to work OK for most functions, including networking, at the command prompt, I am unable to get

Re: Connectix Virtual PC and the Tulip driver.

2002-05-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 04:10:26PM -0500, David Batey wrote: > Hello > I am trying to run Potato on my Win98se machine using Connectix Virtual PC > and everything is working even X with one major exception. My network > connection is not. > > Virtual PC uses emulated hardwar

Connectix Virtual PC and the Tulip driver.

2002-05-21 Thread David Batey
Hello I am trying to run Potato on my Win98se machine using Connectix Virtual PC and everything is working even X with one major exception. My network connection is not.   Virtual PC uses emulated hardware. s3 trio 32/64 4m video sb16 sound DEC 21041 network card (supposedly at IRQ 1 but

Re: Virtual PC

2001-12-31 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:14:54PM -0800, nate wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I have installed Debian on my imac using Virtual PC, but I am > > having problems with X window. > > > > Do you know if Debian can run on VPC or will I have to change to >

Re: Virtual PC

2001-12-31 Thread nate
> Hi > > I have installed Debian on my imac using Virtual PC, but I am > having problems with X window. > > Do you know if Debian can run on VPC or will I have to change to > redhat? what video chip does virtualPC emulate? i haven't used it myself. when using VMWare i

Re: Virtual PC

2001-12-31 Thread P Prince
d Debian on my imac using Virtual PC, but I am having > problems with X window. > > Do you know if Debian can run on VPC or will I have to change to redhat? > > Thanks > > Dave > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Virtual PC

2001-12-31 Thread David Edwards
Hi I have installed Debian on my imac using Virtual PC, but I am having problems with X window. Do you know if Debian can run on VPC or will I have to change to redhat? Thanks Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian installed in Virtual PC

1998-12-12 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Dec 12, 1998 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Magnus Lewan wrote: > I try to install Linux in Virtual PC for Macintosh, but I get in an infinte > loop after booting from the resc1440 diskett. I've actually heard of some one succeeding with this. One, make sure you are using Virtual PC 2.

Debian installed in Virtual PC

1998-12-12 Thread Magnus Lewan
I try to install Linux in Virtual PC for Macintosh, but I get in an infinte loop after booting from the resc1440 diskett. >From a screen saying: "I had trouble checking the choice of root device. I'll assume that the root fs is still "". Press enter to continue."