Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Prunk Dump wrote: Yes I installed libreoffice-l10n-fr but in libreoffice draw the paper size stay on US letter... Configure the default paper settings with libpaper1. # dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 That will present a

[OT] Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-14 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 09:30 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Son: What's a word processor Dad? Dad: Well, you know what a food processor does to food, right? Son: Ah!, I understand. Thanks Dad. Ah! That

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 13 iun 14, 01:46:27, B wrote: There's also a word processor WYSIWYG spiting Latex (don't remember its name, though); but it is better to learn it manually because this way possibilities are endless. If you mean LyX then it's WYSIWYM (What You See Is What You Mean) not WYSIWYG,

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-13 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:21:40PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: However, going through the tutorial is a must, especially if one is transitioning from word processors, otherwise you'll be very frustrated that pressing Enter twice doesn't have the effect you are used to :) Even in modern

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:18:46PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:21:40PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: However, going through the tutorial is a must, especially if one is transitioning from word processors, otherwise you'll be very frustrated that pressing Enter

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Son: What's a word processor Dad? Dad: Well, you know what a food processor does to food, right? Son: Ah!, I understand. Thanks Dad. Ah! That explains what happened on Ariel when Simon and River were to be taken

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Prunk Dump
2014-06-11 1:48 GMT+02:00 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com: The only problem I found with this release system it that, for the users like me that use Debian stable, it is not very motivating to find bug fixes because they are never applied to my version. On the contrary for me. For me it is very

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 12 June 2014 07:31:46 Prunk Dump wrote: A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get the defaut paper size from libpaper or locale. So the print jobs are sended as US Letter instead of A4 and the printers reject them. It's impossible for me to

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 iun 14, 08:31:46, Prunk Dump wrote: Yes but, as a network administrator, I'am front of a problem with debian Stable : the distribution is not very tested for entreprise where we use complex tools (ldap, kerberos, nfs4, ...) and eccentric configurations ( shared home, shared wine

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Prunk Dump
2014-06-12 10:06 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Thursday 12 June 2014 07:31:46 Prunk Dump wrote: A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get the defaut paper size from libpaper or locale. So the print jobs are sended as US Letter instead of A4

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:14:22 +0200 Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I installed libreoffice-l10n-fr but in libreoffice draw the paper size stay on US letter... Maybe a bug in the French language pack ? It is also tied to the locale you use. I force LC_NUMERIC LC_MESSAGES to C to

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread David
On 12 June 2014 16:31, Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover some bugs that appear insignificant for a normal Debian user can become critical on entreprise. A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get the defaut paper size from libpaper or locale. So

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:20:12 +1000 David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: processor with a longstanding bug that entirely removes embedded images at random from a document [1] then I feel sure that I would entirely lose the respect and friendship of that colleague. Never had this one (I always

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 12 June 2014 11:14:22 Prunk Dump wrote: 2014-06-12 10:06 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Thursday 12 June 2014 07:31:46 Prunk Dump wrote: A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get the defaut paper size from libpaper or locale.

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Thursday 12 June 2014 16.20:12 David wrote: On 12 June 2014 16:31, Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover some bugs that appear insignificant for a normal Debian user can become critical on entreprise. A simple example is LibreOffice. Some of the tools of the suite does not get

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Prunk Dump wrote: Yes I installed libreoffice-l10n-fr but in libreoffice draw the paper size stay on US letter... Configure the default paper settings with libpaper1. # dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 That will present a dialog box allowing you to select the default paper size. Because you have

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 iun 14, 17:03:18, Thierry de Coulon wrote: My main concern with LibreOffice is that formatting is not consistent if you copen your document on another machine, but th'sts another story. Depending on what you mean by formating, I would argue that this is not it's purpose (and

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Thursday 12 June 2014 22.56:27 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 12 iun 14, 17:03:18, Thierry de Coulon wrote: My main concern with LibreOffice is that formatting is not consistent if you copen your document on another machine, but th'sts another story. Depending on what you mean by

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 iun 14, 23:28:46, Thierry de Coulon wrote: Maybe I was not clear. I have several machines, all running either the same version of Linux, with (seems) the same fonts, or sometime a slightly different (e.g. upgraded) version of Linux. Or simply I update Libre Office. And every

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:56:17 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, you're looking for TeX/LaTeX/LyX/etc. All teachers I know use Latex to build their courses in a (very) nice way. The learning curve is a bit odd, but it is worth the result. You can even write books

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:09 AM, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:56:17 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, you're looking for TeX/LaTeX/LyX/etc. All teachers I know use Latex to build their courses in a (very) nice way. The learning curve

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:36:51 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: And unlike typical binary document formats (at best, zipped XML like ODF), TeX source files are plain text, and work very nicely with source control. Efficient, clean, and you can read your diffs. It's kinda possible to

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:46 AM, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: There's also a word processor WYSIWYG spiting Latex (don't remember its name, though); but it is better to learn it manually because this way possibilities are endless. I agree, but then, I also build my GUIs using code rather

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/06/14 11:46, B wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:36:51 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: And unlike typical binary document formats (at best, zipped XML like ODF), TeX source files are plain text, and work very nicely with

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-12 Thread John Hasler
B writes: There's also a word processor WYSIWYG spiting Latex Two: Lyx and Gummi. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Prunk Dump wrote: This is exactly what I want to know. On Debian, the stable release is very stable ! Only the critical bugs are corrected. Yes. And I for one count upon this to be able to maintain production systems and to enable setting up new production systems. On any given day the

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-06 Thread Prunk Dump
2014-06-05 10:41 GMT+02:00 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com: Prunk Dump wrote: My debian wheezy clients are all affected by the following bug in gdm-3.4.1 : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683338 This bug is marked as Fixed, because it does not appear in gdm-3.8.3-1 witch is in

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-06 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 6 Jun 2014 08:32:34 +0200 Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com napísal: The only problem I found with this release system it that, for the users like me that use Debian stable, it is not very motivating to find bug fixes because they are never applied to my version. Yes and no :-)

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Prunk Dump wrote: My debian wheezy clients are all affected by the following bug in gdm-3.4.1 : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683338 This bug is marked as Fixed, because it does not appear in gdm-3.8.3-1 witch is in the Debian archive. Ah, yes. A typical situation. The

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-05 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-05, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: My best advice is to use one of the other xdm programs such as lightdm which does not suffer from that problem. Give lightdm a try and you might find it superior to gdm3. I did. apt-get install lightdm I asked myself, How do you change

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 05 June 2014 10:22:07 Curt wrote: dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 seems to be the way to do it from what I've read so far. Yes. The DE I use (Trinity) had a bug in the upgrade script such taht the dm always reverted to gdm on upgrade (I use, and prefer, kdm-trinity). I took to using

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-05 Thread Joe
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:22:07 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-06-05, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: My best advice is to use one of the other xdm programs such as lightdm which does not suffer from that problem. Give lightdm a try and you might find it superior to gdm3.

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-05 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:52:05 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com napísal: dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 There is. I've edited /etc/X11/default-display-manager in the past. I believe reconfiguring any *dm that may be installed should offer the choice of all of them. You are right. I have

When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-04 Thread Prunk Dump
Hello, Excuse my simple question but I try to understand how the Debian Bug tracking system works. My debian wheezy clients are all affected by the following bug in gdm-3.4.1 : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683338 This bug is marked as Fixed, because it does not appear in

Re: When bug fixes are applied on stable ?

2014-06-04 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:44:17 +0200 Prunk Dump prunkd...@gmail.com napísal: My question is when this bug will be fixed on Debian Stable ? - On the next wheezy release ? - Never on wheezy, I need to wait for the stable Jessie ? - When the bug will be fixed by the gdm maintainers in the