On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:46:16AM +0100, David Jardine wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:16:03PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:39:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> > > Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:16:03PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:39:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> > > On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > >> - With grub, the
on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 07:39:34PM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> >> - With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
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> > Sure, instead it'll freeze at stag
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:08, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:32:16AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:29:26AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I prefer to avoid all such risks by having a small DOS partition and
> > booting from that with loadlin.exe.
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> I used to do this, and still have some machines set up t
On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:29:26AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I prefer to avoid all such risks by having a small DOS partition and
> booting from that with loadlin.exe.
I used to do this, and still have some machines set up that way. Since
I discovered grub I don't bother any more. Any para
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 09:08:45 -0700, Daniel L. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:03, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
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I don't understand that - unless your different kernel versions are
all using t
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:03, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
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> >"Daniel L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>I don't understand that - unless your different kernel versions are
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Thanks for all the insightful discussion. I now understand the
differences and may switch to Grub in the future. For the present I
have a number of other pressing projects that have priority.
Also, the though I have frequently rebuilt kernels the only time I was
plagued with boot hangups it turn
On 03 Oct 2004, Daniel L. Miller wrote:
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:58:07 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
>> - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config file
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> Except that you do, unless you believe in symlinks for your kernels..
Except that you don't, as I don't use symlinks for my kernels.
>> - Grub understands file sys
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>>You have a basic shell. You can type the name, and IIRC, there is tab
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> So you can't have an unattended boot?
What would give you that idea? You ca
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I don't understand that - unless your different kernel versions are
all using the same filename.
You have a basic shell. You can type the name, an
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> I don't understand that - unless your different kernel versions are
> all using the same filename.
You have a basic shell. You can type the name, and IIRC, there is tab
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On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
- With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
Sure, instead it'll freeze a
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> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 01:31:00PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
>> Jonathan Byrne wrote:
>> > Of course, Debian _still_ doesn't install to, or support booting from,
>> > software RAID
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> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
>> - With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
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> Sure, instead it'll freeze at stage 1.5. Hardly an
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> - Grub has an interactive shell, so that if you do foul up the
> config file, you have a pretty decent chance of saving yourself and
> navigating to a bootable kernel.
Th
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"Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Setup a new computer from Sarge. Everything is perfect, but I liked
> and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to switch
> to Grub or can I go back to
* Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Oct 03 17:54 -0500]:
> Marc Wilson said on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 10:58:07AM -0700:
> > On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > > - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config file
> >
> > Except that you do, un
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:31:00 -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > Of course, Debian _still_ doesn't install to, or support booting from,
> > software RAID
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> Yes it does.
>
I've tried with the last debian installer and it doesn't work during
the installation,
b
Marc Wilson said on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 10:58:07AM -0700:
> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config file
>
> Except that you do, unless you believe in symlinks for your kernels..
Minor nit: you don't ha
On Sunday 03 October 2004 06:47 am, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Setup a new computer from Sarge. Everything is perfect, but I liked
> and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to
> switch to Grub or can I go back to Lilo without losing anything
> important?
>
> Tom George
Most ev
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Setup a new computer from Sarge. Everything is perfect, but I liked
> and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to switch
> to Grub or can I go back to Lilo without losing anything important?
>
> Tom George
>
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 01:31:00PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> > Of course, Debian _still_ doesn't install to, or support booting from,
> > software RAID
>
> Yes it does.
Of course, that begs the question... why in the world would you want to do
that in the first place?
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On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:22:28AM -0700, Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> - With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
Sure, instead it'll freeze at stage 1.5. Hardly an improvement.
> - You don't have to rerun grub every time you changed the config file
Except that you do, unless you believe
Jonathan Byrne wrote:
> Of course, Debian _still_ doesn't install to, or support booting from,
> software RAID
Yes it does.
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"Thomas H. George" wrote:
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> Setup a new computer from Sarge. Everything is perfect, but I liked
> and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to switch
> to Grub or can I go back to Lilo without losing anything important?
>
> Tom George
Sure, you can still use Lilo. Both work
On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to switch
to Grub
My top handful of reasons why I like GRUB (a lot) better than LILO are,
in no particular order:
- With grub, the boot process will never freeze at LI
- Y
Setup a new computer from Sarge. Everything is perfect, but I liked
and was comfortable with Lilo. Are there compelling reasons to switch
to Grub or can I go back to Lilo without losing anything important?
Tom George
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