Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-09 Thread hendrik
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:50:27PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Well, I used to work as a watchmaker, and I can't think of any context where KB stands together as written with K meaning karat. That's not surprising--in SI, the prefix is the scale factor, and the

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-09 Thread Daniel B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:50:27PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Well, I used to work as a watchmaker, and I can't think of any context where KB stands together as written with K meaning karat. That's not surprising--in SI, the prefix is the scale

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-09 Thread hendrik
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 04:38:16PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 01:50:27PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Well, I used to work as a watchmaker, and I can't think of any context where KB stands together as written with K meaning

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel B.
Willie Wonka wrote: Serial ATA (SATA) data transfer rate specification = 1500 *mbps* or *mb/sec* (megabits per second). No. Megabits be per second is Mbps (lowercase m means milli). Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel B.
Willie Wonka wrote: ... 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte ^^ I forgot to capitalize my 'B' in Byte above The word byte doesn't need to be capitalized. (Were you thinking of the capitalized letter B by itself when it stands for the word byte?) Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel B.
Willie Wonka wrote: ... IOW - Is this how one would correctly display these rates ? 1500mbps = 1.5gbps = 187.5mBps = 1.875gBps ? I think you mean 1500Mbps = 1.5Gbps = 187.5MBps = 1.875GBps As you can see the capitalized 'B' appears a tad ...'out of place'(?), but it's likely /very/

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-08 Thread Daniel B.
Mike McCarty wrote: Well, I used to work as a watchmaker, and I can't think of any context where KB stands together as written with K meaning karat. That's not surprising--in SI, the prefix is the scale factor, and the remainder is the unit. I don't think there are any unit symbols that

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-05-08 Thread IraqiGeek
On Monday, May 08, 2006 6:47 PM GMT, Daniel B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Willie Wonka wrote: ... IOW - Is this how one would correctly display these rates ? 1500mbps = 1.5gbps = 187.5mBps = 1.875gBps ? I think you mean 1500Mbps = 1.5Gbps = 187.5MBps = 1.875GBps AFAIK, SATA uses a start

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-26 08:27:14, schrieb Ron Johnson: That's because we don't need any more. It gives our brains more room to successfully figure out how to convince people to pay US$80 for pieces of denim cloth stitched together by workers in Malaysian sweat shops. ;-/ Greetings Michelle

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-26 10:35:22, schrieb Gene Heskett: Yes, sad isn't it, particularly since the keyboard configs used here for linux don't very well allow the painless typeing of such characters. I personally think our keyboard mapping should allow, via the alt keys, as much of the full 8 bit

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 04:59:08PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: It's not only Aussies who add 'r' at the end of words, then English do as well. Especially when two vowels collide: There is no 'r' added. What you are alluding to is changing the sound of the vowel. Consider father and fat.

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a text-only message. There isn't

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-21 15:18:18, schrieb Mike McCarty: Guantanamo is not a territory. It is a base which is leased from Right, same for Aserbaijan... But the US-Governement treat it like this. No. They treat it like any other base. It has no representation, whereas people

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-27 Thread Tony Godshall
According to Mike McCarty, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Tony Godshall wrote: According to Mike McCarty, Michelle Konzack wrote: You forget, that the american brain is limited to 128 characters called US-ASCII. You forget what the A in ASCII means. If you Europeans want to take over something we made for ourselves, then you should at least have

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a text-only message. There isn't anything non-ISO about ä,

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-21 15:18:18, schrieb Mike McCarty: Guantanamo is not a territory. It is a base which is leased from Right, same for Aserbaijan... But the US-Governement treat it like this. Greetings Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-21 15:19:23, schrieb Mike McCarty: Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-11 23:37:59, schrieb tom arnall: IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST??? NO, because it is debian-user and not debian-moderator ;-) Greetings Michelle Konzack Why, yes there are list admnistrators

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 02:03 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 April 2006 20:03, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-19 10:50:06, schrieb Paul Johnson: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 12:48:58PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: We should have gone all the way to simplified spelling. Surely you've seen that internet joke about simplified spelling, where the silent e gets dropped, and y's that sound like an i get replaced by an i, and the

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-22 Thread Matthias Julius
Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me re-iterate in case that wasn't clear enough. There are many text formats, of which ISO *is* one. But ASCII is the only subset common to almost all, and consequently IMHO is the most appropriate for a public formum where you can't make assumptions

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-22 Thread Matthias Julius
Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me re-iterate in case that wasn't clear enough. There are many text formats, of which ISO *is* one. But ASCII is the only subset common to almost all, and consequently IMHO is the most appropriate for a public formum where you can't make assumptions

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 03:12:16PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: If you are using a graphical display, then UTF provides a good way to avoid the problem if your mail reading software can do the translation. But I don't think you can assume everyone on a public

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-22 Thread Matthias Julius
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you need a graphical display for? If everything is properly set up, special characters will display just fine in text mode. For a few weeks I read mail using mutt, including -l10n-romanian, where special characters are used on regular basis and

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-22 Thread Matthias Julius
Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All very strange. I grew up with lowercase for small, uppercase for large: m milli- 10^-3 c centi- 10^-2 d deci-10^-1 D deca-10 H hecta- 10^2 K kilo-10^3 M mega-10^6 G giga-10^9 etc...

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-22 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 05:16:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using a graphical display, then UTF provides a good way to avoid the problem if your mail reading software can do the translation. But I don't think you can assume everyone on

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Doofus
Mike McCarty wrote: Why, yes there are list admnistrators which sometimes act as moderators. Just recently, there was one who made some unfriendly threats around here... Mike References please. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:58:01 +0100, Doofus wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Why, yes there are list admnistrators which sometimes act as moderators. Just recently, there was one who made some unfriendly threats around here... Mike References please. For a start, I can offer you a

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Doofus
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 11:58:01 +0100, Doofus wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Why, yes there are list admnistrators which sometimes act as moderators. Just recently, there was one who made some unfriendly threats around here... Mike References please.

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 18:34:34 +0100, Doofus wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] For a start, I can offer you a threat of forcibly assisted unsubscription: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/03/msg01252.html That was an interesting read. No well adjusted and reasonably

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Doofus
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 18:34:34 +0100, Doofus wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] For a start, I can offer you a threat of forcibly assisted unsubscription: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/03/msg01252.html That was an interesting read.

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 20:35 +0100, Doofus wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 18:34:34 +0100, Doofus wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] [snip] Every message that was thenceforth posted to this particular thread was artificially delayed for one day before it was

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Paul Johnson wrote: That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k is kilo, K is Karat. Paul just mistook prefixes and units... mm is milimeter, where first 'm' means mili and second 'm' means meter. One letter can have more meanings. On

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen exactly to differ 1024 from 1000 - small 'k'. On

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:37:08AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Which was my point. Using Jaegermeister is locale independent. So? A misconfigured system is no reason for changing the spelling of something. Change the cause not the effect... Well, it's not really a

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 02:52:17PM +0100, Wulfy wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Wulfy wrote: Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. So is Hiragana. So is Kanji. So is Arabic. So is

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread Lynn Kilroy
From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively),

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only if they want most people to read what they write. Should people who use Hindi characters change? How about Arabic? Hebrew? How about Linear B? If someone posts Arabic text then he might use Arabic characters with a proper encoding. Do you want

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 01:09:08PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Why do we even want people only to post in English? Because this is an English-language mailing list. There are other mailing lists for other languages. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread Richard Lyons
+++ Matus UHLAR - fantomas [21/04/06 08:54 +0200]: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-11 23:37:59, schrieb tom arnall: IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST??? NO, because it is debian-user and not debian-moderator ;-) Greetings Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-04-11 16:40:59, schrieb Ron Johnson: .us = 300,000,000 Not right, because the there are 150,000,000 illegal mexicans in the USA and 50,000,000 illegal prisoners in US-Teritory like Guantanamo. =8O .uk + .ca + .au + .nz = 60,600,000 + 33,000,000 + 20,200,000 + 4,100,000 =

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using a graphical display, then UTF provides a good way to avoid the problem if your mail reading software can do the translation. But I don't think you can assume everyone on a public mailing list is going to have that. Regards, DigbyT

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k is kilo, K is Karat. Paul just mistook prefixes and units... mm is milimeter, where first 'm' means mili and second 'm' means meter. One letter

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:37:08AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Which was my point. Using Jaegermeister is locale independent. So? A misconfigured system is no reason for changing the spelling of something. Change the cause not the effect...

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike McCarty wrote: I can show you a meters tall stack of Electronics Magazines which dispute that. Convention since I got involved (in about 1964 or so) is k and K both mean 1000 when referring to electronics units. It's no good looking there for rigor: capitals for big numbers (but only over

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-11 16:40:59, schrieb Ron Johnson: .us = 300,000,000 Not right, because the there are 150,000,000 illegal mexicans in the USA and 50,000,000 illegal prisoners in US-Teritory like Guantanamo. Guantanamo is not a territory. It is a base which is leased from

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???

2006-04-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-11 23:37:59, schrieb tom arnall: IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST??? NO, because it is debian-user and not debian-moderator ;-) Greetings Michelle Konzack Why, yes there are list admnistrators which sometimes act as moderators. Just recently,

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 15:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-11 16:40:59, schrieb Ron Johnson: .us = 300,000,000 Not right, because the there are 150,000,000 illegal mexicans in the USA and 50,000,000 illegal prisoners in US-Teritory like Guantanamo.

Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 21 April 2006 18:04, Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 15:18 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-11 16:40:59, schrieb Ron Johnson: .us = 300,000,000 Not right, because the there are 150,000,000 illegal mexicans in the USA and 50,000,000 illegal

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-21 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 03:12:16PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: If you are using a graphical display, then UTF provides a good way to avoid the problem if your mail reading software can do the translation. But I don't think you can assume everyone on a public mailing list is going to have

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-20 Thread Willie Wonka
--- Willie Wonka wrote: [ This message is being forwarded to the list as well ] Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:04:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?) To: Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread John Hasler
Digby R. S. Tarvin writes: If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to ASCII text. I'm using Gnus which is not graphical and it displays umlauts just fine. You don't need graphics to display ISO

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Wulfy
Mike McCarty wrote: Wulfy wrote: Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. So is Hiragana. So is Kanji. So is Arabic. So is Hebrew. So is Cyrillic. So? Digby said that ISO wasn't text

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Wulfy
Mike McCarty wrote: Wulfy wrote: Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. So is Hiragana. So is Kanji. So is Arabic. So is Hebrew. So is Cyrillic. So? Digby said that ISO wasn't text

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Wulfy
Matthias Julius wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ae is a poorman form of æ. In German it is perfectly legitimate to use ae instead of ä if you can not use that for what ever reason. It is just ugly. The character æ is used nowhere in German. Matthias But it is in

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Wulfy wrote: Matthias Julius wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ae is a poorman form of æ. In German it is perfectly legitimate to use ae instead of ä if you can not use that for what ever reason. It is just ugly. The character æ is used nowhere in German.

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Wulfy
Mike McCarty wrote: Only if they want most people to read what they write. Should people who use Hindi characters change? How about Arabic? Hebrew? How about Linear B? Why do we even want people only to post in English? Why not post in whatever your native tongue is? I guess I'll switch to

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Wulfy wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Only if they want most people to read what they write. Should people who use Hindi characters change? How about Arabic? Hebrew? How about Linear B? Why do we even want people only to post in English? Why not post in whatever your native tongue is? I guess I'll

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 08:23:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 11:44, Digby Tarvin wrote: If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to ASCII text. I am in the UK,

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-20 Thread Matthias Julius
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wulfy wrote: Digby Tarvin wrote: When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic capital 'D' between the 'J' and the 'germeister'. If I use vi or cat to view the message, I see 'J=E4germeister' or 'J0xe4germeister', which is less than clear.. Not

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Scott
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Willie Wonka
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte ^^ I forgot to capitalize my 'B' in Byte above 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.04.06 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:22 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: mb = megabit nope, small 'm' snands for 'mili' which is 1/1 000 000 e.g. one millionth part. m = milli = 1 / 1 000 u (greek letter mu) = micro = 1 / 1 000 000 -- Matt Zagrabelny - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (218) 726 8844

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal y in English, as in yet. As an

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, and the /j/ phoneme

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k is

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Willie Wonka wrote: [snip] Contextually though, they are completely different - like oh say using the acronym *IDE* , which can be Integrated Device Electronics -or- Integrated Development Environment ((in most 'computer' circles) and completely dependent upon the context of it's use). oh,

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen exactly to differ 1024 from 1000 - small 'k'.

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a text-only message. There

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that into a text-only

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols inside of slash marks. That means that they

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:53 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:06:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:53 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 14:33, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:50:06AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Nope, it's J?germeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand the umlaut. It is

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Wulfy
Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic capital 'D' between the 'J' and the 'germeister'. If I use vi or cat to view the message, I see

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 11:44, Digby Tarvin wrote: If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to ASCII text. I am in the UK, but I never try to use shift-3 to insert a pound symbol into an

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Wulfy wrote: Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. So is Hiragana. So is Kanji. So is Arabic. So is Hebrew. So is Cyrillic. So? When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There isn't anything non-ISO about ä, including it in a message doesn't make it not text only. Right. The ae is a poorman form of æ. In German it is perfectly legitimate to use ae instead of ä if you can not use that for what ever reason. It is

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-19 Thread Matthias Julius
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope. Both the K and the k have been used in electronics to mean times 1000 since I got involved in about 1965 or so. That might be. But, SI standard only knows about k. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen exactly to differ 1024 from 1000 - small 'k'. But this can't be applied for 'M'

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:32:50AM -0700, Willie Wonka wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this example, I'll use [Sector=512Bytes] and [Track=4096Bytes = 8 Sectors]. Data (File) that occupies more space than 1 sector (512Bytes), will fill up

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread Willie Wonka
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen exactly to differ 1024 from 1000 - small 'k'.

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 17:10 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 10:36 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:32:48 +0300 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] phonemes. In my dialect of

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 17:10 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 10:36 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:32:48 +0300 Andrei Popescu

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
Matus UHLAR - fantomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen exactly to differ 1024 from

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 16.04.06 22:56, Willie Wonka wrote: Explained another way (hopefully); If you bought a 1,000 Byte (1KB) HDD - you'd lose 24 *Bytes* No. The big 'K' stands for 1024, 1000 is small 'k'. The big 'K' was chosen

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 05:31, Willie Wonka wrote: Maybe I'm dense, but; kb = kilobit KB = KiloByte mb = megabit MB = MegaByte 1 bit * 8 = 1 byte 1 Byte / 8 = 1 bit That's right, except it's kb or kB (for kilobits and kilobytes respectively), never KB or Kb. k is kilo, K is Karat. --

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-17 Thread Willie Wonka
Andrei Popescu wrote: Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually - Block sizes are what they are (in binary), because computers use Binary language to communicate/operate...Many HDD manufacturers just like to *lie* and use a diff integer base (base10)...to make the HDD look larger.

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Binary Example 1,024 1,048,576 1,073,741,824 1,099,511,627,776 notice the 'column' of numbers (aligned vertically, from the top); 024 048 073 099 The difference (between decimal/binary) as sizes increase is _never_ the same *percentage*

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-17 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:32:48 +0300 Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And the resulting text is not so unintelligible if you are used to phonetic spelling. Like the Romanian language has. (Just to be clear) Are you sure? Many native speakers of

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-17 Thread Mike McCarty
Magnus Therning wrote: I can't believe I'm jumping into this. On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 06:28:54AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Apr 16 04:13 -0500]: On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 09:13 +0100, Chris Lale wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And c will still be needed for

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-17 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 16 April 2006 04:28, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Apr 16 04:13 -0500]: On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 09:13 +0100, Chris Lale wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And c will still be needed for ch (as in church, not the k in school/skool). Don't

Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)

2006-04-17 Thread Willie Wonka
Andrei Popescu wrote: Willie Wonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Binary Example 1,024 1,048,576 1,073,741,824 1,099,511,627,776 [snipped] To try and sum up my point; Everytime you step *up* using a power of 10, you lose MORE when converting to Binary. IMHO; 1024 * 1024 =

Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?

2006-04-17 Thread Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Dutch language has gone through spelling reform. But even so, not all letters have single sounds, and not all sounds have single spellings. What I have noticed, though, is that every case I've seen in which one sound appears to have several spellings, there is

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