Craig Sanders wrote:
libc5/libc6
what's the problem with libc5 and libc6? they both work in debian.
no problem, only a question mark for a newbie at installation
the usual cycle with dselect is:
1. Update
2. Select
3. Install
4. Configure
5. repeat steps 3 4 until there are no
On Mon, Jan 26, 1998 at 12:04:40AM +0100, joost witteveen wrote:
Adrian Bridgett wrote:
Let's compare like with like. To install a program on windows you double
click it and then keep clicking on next. To install a program on Debian
you
type dpkg -i filename. Dselect is not the
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
I'm not sure. The point is that you have to make a decision, which mail
transport agent you need (do you have a big site, with lots of users, or
stand alone with no mail at all, or only local mail, or what), which
webserver if any, what printer spooler/filter and so
Hi everybody,
most of the things were already pointed out. So if i repeat something
- sorry.
But i've not that much time to write.
This is the 4th week after my first installation attempts. After trying
many
Computersystems and OS's i have to say that none of them is what it
should be -
user
(i knew that the unhtml package would be a useful thing to install...a
tip for you: don't send html documents to mailing lists. most people
wont even bother reading them. even fewer will make the effort to reply.
if you want to communicate, it's up to you to communicate in a manner
which everyone
Script (/usr/bin/script from the bsdutils package) will make a
transcript of a dselect session, regardless of the install method
being used. See man script for details.
Bob
On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the output of dselect logged somewhere? This woud
grin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, George Bonser wrote:
I think it is because of the conflict resolution screen and the fact that
Debian offers more alternatives than Red Hat. Maybe there are TOO MANY
alternatives offered for a new install.
Well, dselect should perhaps start with
On 24-Jan-1998, David E. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
grin wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, George Bonser wrote:
I think it is because of the conflict resolution screen and the fact that
Debian offers more alternatives than Red Hat. Maybe there are TOO MANY
alternatives offered
Tyson,
I guess I'm just expressing frustration at not being able to master the
installation process.
Agreed, Debian dselect does a tremendous lot of work during the install
process, and it's very infrequent that dependency or other warnings are
issued during a Win95 product
On Sun, Jan 25, 1998 at 01:17:11AM -0500, David E. Scott wrote:
For those of us coming to linux, Debian or otherwise, from the business
environment where when we ask the system (Mac or Win 95) to do an
install for a package, we can be pretty confident that, in fact, the
install will
Tyson Dowd, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/24/98 11:43 PM
Perhaps you could explain why you think the Mac/Win UI is better?
Is it just prettier, or is there some way in which it is a better
interface for doing the job?
As far as I can see (the Windows installer) just covers your screen,
tells you to
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, David E. Scott wrote:
Tyson,
I guess I'm just expressing frustration at not being able to master the
installation process.
Agreed, Debian dselect does a tremendous lot of work during the install
process, and it's very infrequent that dependency or other
On Sun, Jan 25, 1998 at 09:57:46AM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, David E. Scott wrote:
Tyson,
I guess I'm just expressing frustration at not being able to master the
installation process.
Agreed, Debian dselect does a tremendous lot of work during the
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
Ok, let's summarize the differences between the install programs. The
Win95 installs have a simple design, are brain-dead and can present you
with nice 'Next' buttons. The Debian installer can perform complex tasks
but has a user interface that is hard to learn.
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Asher Haig wrote:
The mac makes it clear as to exactly what is being installed -- that's
the biggest difference. It tells you what's happening. dpkg is better for
doing stuff en masse and certain other things, but the mac is certainly
easier, mainly because of
On Sun, Jan 25, 1998 at 12:29:47PM -0500, David E. Scott wrote:
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
Agreed. chuckle, but I'm not so sure the Win95 install wizard could
be characterized as brain-dead at least not in comparison to the truly
brain-dead installations in Win 3.1 from 3d party suppliers
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
But you never now if you are safe to replace or keep it, are you?
True enough, but the safer option is to not allow the installer put in
the older version. That way if the software I'm testing doesn't run, I
can trash it. However if I had let the installer go ahead and
Adrian Bridgett wrote:
Let's compare like with like. To install a program on windows you double
click it and then keep clicking on next. To install a program on Debian you
type dpkg -i filename. Dselect is not the installer, it is the package
selection tool. It shows you a list of program
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, David E. Scott wrote:
Adrian Bridgett wrote:
Let's compare like with like. To install a program on windows you double
click it and then keep clicking on next. To install a program on Debian you
type dpkg -i filename. Dselect is not the installer, it is the package
Adrian Bridgett wrote:
Let's compare like with like. To install a program on windows you double
click it and then keep clicking on next. To install a program on Debian you
type dpkg -i filename. Dselect is not the installer, it is the package
selection tool. It shows you a list of
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, David E. Scott wrote:
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
Well, Debian is not much different. It's just that first-time users get
overwhelmed (sp?) by the huge list of packages dselect shows them. That's
something you'll have to get used to until deity is released.
'deity'?
On Sun, Jan 25, 1998 at 05:08:07PM -0500, David E. Scott wrote:
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
Therefore it is easier to automate an installation of windows, but it is
also easier to break it ;)
Perhaps like the RedHad system, all those assumptions could be made
ahead of time (with more limited
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, George Bonser wrote:
I think it is because of the conflict resolution screen and the fact that
Debian offers more alternatives than Red Hat. Maybe there are TOO MANY
alternatives offered for a new install.
Well, dselect should perhaps start with --newbie switch :)
What makes RH that much simpler to use?? I find dselect simple, and
linux == linux so config files are fairly standard. Yet I have heard
I have been using Linux for about 5 years and am currently administering
an ISP (running Linux). I did not expect much trouble installing debian,
however
There is work being done on improving the installation. The
problems do arise from the great flexibility of debian. I agree that
not trying to install everything in one pass is the way to go. It makes
things much simpler. In the end, I think the debian packaging system does
a good job
On 19-Jan-1998, George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it is because of the conflict resolution screen and the fact that
Debian offers more alternatives than Red Hat. Maybe there are TOO MANY
alternatives offered for a new install.
Example ... try selecting cnews on a clean instll
Tyson Dowd said:
At the moment, Debian seems to be more popular as a second system --
once you've tried a different Linux first, or used other Unix systems
you appreciate and enjoy the flexibility of the Debian system.
I would definitly agree with that observation. I am currently setting a
freind
What makes RH that much simpler to use?? I find dselect simple, and
linux == linux so config files are fairly standard. Yet I have heard
that comment numerous times -- debian is too much of a learning curve.
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I have found that redhat was easy because the documentation was better
printed in the book stores, but I have switched to debian and found it
just as easy to work with as debian and like it better in the sense of
upgrading, the dselect does a fairly nice job compared to Redhat.
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