On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 09:42:13AM -0500, Roger Pittman wrote:
> Per the source code, the "standard" (oversimplified) sequence is:
Ahhh, yes, what you describe is how it works usually. It's fine if you're
sitting at a leased line or pay a flat fee for your phone call to your ISP.
But what we
On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 08:55:00AM +0100, Thomas Adams wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 01:32:57AM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
>
> > Don't all news-servers provide for this, and all news-readers
> > implement it? The news reader in NS Communicator does the above.
>
> I'm sure every news server
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:53:50 -0500, you wrote:
> Newsgroups allow you to only download the subject lines of the
>messages instead of have to download all messages whether you
>would have read them or not.
Well, Netscape 4.5 can obviously do it and there are more than one
participant who rea
On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 01:32:57AM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Don't all news-servers provide for this, and all news-readers
> implement it? The news reader in NS Communicator does the above.
I'm sure every news server lets you download headers only. But what good is
that if your client is
Thomas Adams wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 05:53:50PM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
>
> > Newsgroups allow you to only download the subject lines of the
> > messages instead of have to download all messages whether you
> > would have read them or not. I'm glad you have a 56k connection,
>
Tom Persons wrote:
>
> Actually, if you check an earlier post someone responded with the address of
> a site that mirrors this list. But your right, that many e-mail's at 28.8 or
> lower can take quite awhile. On the flip side a 56K modem goes for under
> $100 now and I've seen some on sale for as
On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 05:53:50PM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Newsgroups allow you to only download the subject lines of the
> messages instead of have to download all messages whether you
> would have read them or not. I'm glad you have a 56k connection,
How many Unix newsreaders offer th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Bialasinski) writes:
>
> http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/
I am reading debian-devel there occasionally and I can assure you this is
NOT a viable alternative.
1. The software cannot handle multipart/signed messsages :-(
2. The threaded display does not contain date
Tom Persons writes:
> Oh, and please don't tell me that some people can't afford $30 for a new
> modem. I realize this situation exists, but I would guess that a minority
> of the people suscribed to this list falls into that category.
There is another minority for whom a 56K modem is of no use.
Actually, if you check an earlier post someone responded with the address of
a site that mirrors this list. But your right, that many e-mail's at 28.8 or
lower can take quite awhile. On the flip side a 56K modem goes for under
$100 now and I've seen some on sale for as low as $30. Seems a small pri
Tom Persons wrote:
>
> Maybe I missed something but why is this even an issue? I have configured my
> mail client (in windows for the time being) to route all debian-user mail to
> a seperate folder. Sure it can be cumbersome to wait for a couple hundred
> e-mails to download but with a 56K connec
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On 11 Jan 1999 09:57:55 +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>>> "TP" == Tom Persons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>TP> the meantime. Maybe if someone wanted to mirror this list on a website for
>TP> those with less patience that would be a viable alternative. We shou
>> "TP" == Tom Persons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TP> the meantime. Maybe if someone wanted to mirror this list on a website for
TP> those with less patience that would be a viable alternative. We should have
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/
Ciao,
Martin
P.S.: Please don't quote
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To: debian
Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: Why not as a newsgroup?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
>>
>> > I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
>> > i
>
> On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
>
> > I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
> > internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted viewing only of
> > some newsnet news groups.
> >
> > There is no way to either connect to a d
For people who want to read the debian mailing lists as a newgroup
because of conevenience of using the client (as opposed to bandwidth
concerns), it is pretty easy to set up a local news-server to do this.
Just get the inn package and the newsgate package.
Configure inn and add a group for each m
Mike Touloumtzis wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 08:12:40PM +0100, Thomas Adams wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
> >
> > > I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
> > > internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted vi
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 08:12:40PM +0100, Thomas Adams wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
>
> > I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
> > internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted viewing only of
> > some newsnet new
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 01:09:59AM -0800, Martin Waller wrote:
> I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
> internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted viewing only of
> some newsnet news groups.
>
> There is no way to either connect to a different news ser
Hi,
On Thu, 07 Jan, 1999 à 04:54:49PM -0500, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Didier Verna wrote:
> >
> > Mosl Roland writes:
> >
> > Mosl> I find the current method with email very unpractical.
> >
> > I find it very practical.
>
> Not everyone out here agrees with that statement.
>
> > Mos
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:16:00 +0100, Ryszard Lach wrote:
>If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress appear in
>Reply-To field?
*chuckle* Here we go again.
- --
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm yo
>> "RL" == Ryszard Lach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RL> If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress
RL> appear in Reply-To field?
No, no, no. Again, this has been discussed to death.
Reason:
If some recipient as not reachable, the sender of a mail to
debian-user gets a me
Ryszard Lach writes:
Ryszard> If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress
Ryszard> appear in Reply-To field?
You don't want to do this, NEVER! If somebody posts without being
subscribed, there would be no way for him to get the answer, unless you add
him manually in C
>
> I agree with you, though, that a newsgroup would be nice. But the current
> format is working just fine for me. One possible problem with a newsgroup
If we're spoking about functionality: how to make lists's adress appear in
Reply-To field?
Siaco.
--
Ryszard Łach
Internet Designers
http
> I find the current method with email
> very unpractical.
>
> Why not organize as a newsgroup
> only available as
>
> news.debian.org ?
>
> 1.) news are organized as threades
> emails are very unorganized
There are many good mailreaders out there. Mine does this:
1. Automatically put m
I for one would no longer to be able to get the list. I access the
internet through a firewall. The policy is restricted viewing only of
some newsnet news groups.
There is no way to either connect to a different news server nor post to
usenet.
So the newsgroup way would be impossible for me
On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 06:33:01PM +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> If you want local newsgroups, instal inn and mail2news (both available
> as Debian packages) or use gnus, which handles mailspools like
> newsgroups.
Or use Gnus, which can do this on the fly with mail (IIRC you don't even
nee
Ed C. writes:
> As mentioned above (only download the subject lines), a newsgroup is more
> efficient for those of us who don't have the T1, or better, connections
> that the rest of you apparently have (how long does it take you to
> download 500 emails, Hmmm?).
I have a single phone line, a 2880
>> "EC" == Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
EC> All I'm asking is for the majority to show a little more
EC> understanding of the minority's position.
Please show understanding to the ones who have to pay for their
phonecalls (and not too few, I can assure you) and who have rather bad
con
Didier Verna wrote:
>
> Mosl Roland writes:
>
> Mosl> I find the current method with email very unpractical.
>
> I find it very practical.
Not everyone out here agrees with that statement.
> Mosl> Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as
> Mosl> news.debian.org ?
>
On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 18:18:29 +0100, Didier Verna wrote:
> Mosl> Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as
> Mosl> news.debian.org ?
>
> I hope not. The signal/noise ratio on mailing lists is always so much
> better than on a newsgroup.
In my experience, most of the smaller news
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:05:14 -0800 (PST), George Bonser wrote:
>The Debian mailing lists already ARE available a newsgroups but they are
>just not transmitted over the general Usenet. You have to ask someone
>that carries them. Also, postings to the newsgroups a
Regarding debian-user-digest, try splitdigest debian package.
Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Quoting Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
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> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Mosl Roland wrote:
>
> > 2.) I am from Austria. $0.9 per hour
> > f
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Mosl Roland wrote:
> 2.) I am from Austria. $0.9 per hour
> for my telephone connection at
> night time, but $2.7 at day time.
>
> So I download newsgroups only
> in the cheap night time, and I go
> at day time only
>> "MR" == Mosl Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MR> So why not change it to a privat (only on one server available)
MR> newsgroup?
You are beating a dead horse.
This would increase traffic and load on the server (we'd have to use
one of the existing servers).
You get mail with full speed fr
Mosl Roland writes:
Mosl> I find the current method with email very unpractical.
I find it very practical.
Mosl> Why not organize as a newsgroup only available as
Mosl> news.debian.org ?
I hope not. The signal/noise ratio on mailing lists is always so much
better than on a news
I find the current method with email
very unpractical.
Why not organize as a newsgroup
only available as
news.debian.org ?
1.) news are organized as threades
emails are very unorganized
2.) I am from Austria. $0.9 per hour
for my telephone connection at
night time, but $2.7 at d
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