Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-01-19 21:15:15, schrieb Henrik Enberg: > Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'd be curious to know what applications are spouting crap into > > it. There'd be a round of bugs filed by me on them. > > Mine is full of spewage from GTK-based apps. Please write Bugreports against the

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:07:05AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:18:55AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:57:46AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 03:25:39PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West writes: > > how about if aptitude could install in ~/blah if run as non-root? I'm > > sure there are implications I don't understand. > > Worms would then be able to call aptitude to install malware in the user's

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread John Hasler
Andrew Sackville-West writes: > how about if aptitude could install in ~/blah if run as non-root? I'm > sure there are implications I don't understand. Worms would then be able to call aptitude to install malware in the user's home directory. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:08:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:07:05 -0500 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:18:55AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > I'd actually appreciate it if aptitude (or other such) would > > distinguish between packa

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:07:05 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:18:55AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:57:46AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users > > >

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:18:55AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:57:46AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who > > > actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:57:46AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who > > > actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so > > > because a lot of applications, installers and games

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:57:46AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who > > actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so > > because a lot of applications, installers and games simply wil

Re: HAL (was "Why there is no space left on root partition?")

2007-01-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/07 09:30, Ken Heard wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > Since I do not have it installed I don't know what I am missing. > Does it do anything that other commands and packages do not do? > If so, does HAL do it better? In short, is HAL wo

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 16:48 +, Joe wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 17:41 +, Joe wrote: > >> Having said that, it's clearly not a bright idea to put a log file of > >> potentially unlimited size in /root. Hasn't anyone heard of /var/log? > >> And it's pretty obvious w

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-21 Thread Joe
Greg Folkert wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 17:41 +, Joe wrote: Having said that, it's clearly not a bright idea to put a log file of potentially unlimited size in /root. Hasn't anyone heard of /var/log? And it's pretty obvious why a separate partition is useful there, even for a standalone

Re: HAL (was "Why there is no space left on root partition?")

2007-01-21 Thread Marty
Ken Heard wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Are these packages installed: hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 This is my first exposure to the HAL package, the Hardware Extraction Layer. It is not installed in my box. The HAL description in aptitude reads as follows: "HAL provides an

HAL (was "Why there is no space left on root partition?")

2007-01-21 Thread Ken Heard
Ron Johnson wrote: Are these packages installed: hal hal-device-manager libhal-storage1 libhal1 This is my first exposure to the HAL package, the Hardware Extraction Layer. It is not installed in my box. The HAL description in aptitude reads as follows: "HAL provides an abstract view on h

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Marc Shapiro
David E. Fox wrote: I don't recall ever having a large .xsession-errors file. Currently, it's at about 300 bytes. Mine is 68 bytes. Of course I have no KDE, or GNOME stuff installed, at all. -- Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:32:16 + Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's the stderr output of programs which have been created > under an X session. You can safely delete it. And, to the OP: issue a > .xsession-errors in the /root directory - it'll just quickly turn into a zero byte fi

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 19 January 2007 06:32, Jon Dowland wrote: > everyone else: > > I'd be curious to know what applications are spouting crap > into it. There'd be a round of bugs filed by me on them. I'd > also wishlist xsession to round-robin that file from time to > time. almost all KDE applications lik

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/20/07 18:24, David Jardine wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 03:26:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:24:41PM -0400, Stephen Cormier wrote: >>> On Thursday 18 January 2007 20:28, Ron Johnson wrote: Linking

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 03:26:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:24:41PM -0400, Stephen Cormier wrote: > > On Thursday 18 January 2007 20:28, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > Linking an important log file to /dev/null is kinda risky, no? > > > > Well it was either

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 19:29, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:52:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gon

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/20/07 07:57, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Arvidsson writes: >> I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who >> actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so >> because a lot of applications, installers

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:24:41PM -0400, Stephen Cormier wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 20:28, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Linking an important log file to /dev/null is kinda risky, no? > > Well it was either the linking or have it continue to fill up the partition, > this was the only time

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 17:41 +, Joe wrote: > Having said that, it's clearly not a bright idea to put a log file of > potentially unlimited size in /root. Hasn't anyone heard of /var/log? > And it's pretty obvious why a separate partition is useful there, even > for a standalone workstation. .x

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Joe
John Hasler wrote: Sven Arvidsson writes: I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so because a lot of applications, installers and games simply will not run on an unprivileged account. Nothing force

Re: Security (was: Why there is no space left on root partition?)

2007-01-20 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Sven Arvidsson writes: > >>I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who >>actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so >>because a lot of applications, installers and games simply w

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 07:57 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Arvidsson writes: > > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who > > actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so > > because a lot of applications, installers and games simply will not r

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread John Hasler
Sven Arvidsson writes: > I'm not a Windows user myself, but I hear of many Windows users who > actually know that they shouldn't run as admin but are forced to do so > because a lot of applications, installers and games simply will not run > on an unprivileged account. Nothing forces them to run t

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 12:49 +, Joe wrote: > You can be quite certain that most domestic Windows users will run as > admins, even though they're virtually all using versions which have > unprivileged users. They do it because nobody tells them otherwise, not > because Windows can't do otherwise.

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-20 Thread Joe
Jakub Narojczyk wrote: Ron Johnson napisa³(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: But Microsoft lets me run *anything* as Administrator This is becouse Windows is stupid. running programs as a root gives them ability to damage your system.

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:52:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: > >> Thanks for the advice. > >> I looked at the files under /root, and found > >> there

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > You, though, John, get flogged 100 times with a wet noodle for not > noticing obvious sarcasm. _My_ sarcasm was aimed at the OP. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/07 12:07, jie gong wrote: > Just cleaned up the .xsessionerror file, have not looked the content, pity! > Did some experiment. > I started the x-session under root (althought it is not good to do that) > Found the .x-sessionerror show up agai

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 18:20, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: >> But Microsoft lets me run *anything* as Administrator! > >> Why can't I do the same thing in Stupid Old Linux? > > You can, if you know how. Once you figure out how you will know better

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: Thanks for the advice. I looked at the files under /root, and found there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. What is that? Can

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Henrik Enberg
Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd be curious to know what applications are spouting crap into > it. There'd be a round of bugs filed by me on them. Mine is full of spewage from GTK-based apps. > I'd also wishlist xsession to round-robin that file from time to time. It's truncated on

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:39:35PM -0600, jie gong wrote: > Thanks for the advice. I looked at the files under /root, > and found there is a file .xsession-errors has size > 4003647488. What is that? Can I delete it? to op: It's the stderr output of programs which have been created under an X s

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Jakub Narojczyk
Ron Johnson napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: But Microsoft lets me run *anything* as Administrator This is becouse Windows is stupid. running programs as a root gives them ability to damage your system. Why can't I do the sam

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Stephen Cormier
On Thursday 18 January 2007 20:28, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/18/07 18:24, Stephen Cormier wrote: > > On Thursday 18 January 2007 19:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > >> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: > >>> Thanks for the advice. > >>> I looked at the files under /root, and found > >>>

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > But Microsoft lets me run *anything* as Administrator! > Why can't I do the same thing in Stupid Old Linux? You can, if you know how. Once you figure out how you will know better than to do it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread jie gong
Just cleaned up the .xsessionerror file, have not looked the content, pity! Did some experiment. I started the x-session under root (althought it is not good to do that) Found the .x-sessionerror show up again. The content is: Xsession: X session started for root at Fri Jan 19 07:03:55 EST 2007

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread jie gong
Thanks a lot. It indeed solved my system problem. On 1/19/07, Lubos Vrbka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jie gong napsal(a): > Thanks for the advice. > I looked at the files under /root, and found > there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. > What is that? Can I delete it? the file con

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Lubos Vrbka
jie gong napsal(a): Thanks for the advice. I looked at the files under /root, and found there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. What is that? Can I delete it? the file contains errors from your x session. it seems you use some x program that just gone mad and prints a lots of error

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-19 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 18:24, Stephen Cormier wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 19:43, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: >>> Thanks for the advice. >>> I looked at the files under /root, and found >>> there is a file .xs

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Stephen Cormier
On Thursday 18 January 2007 19:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: > > Thanks for the advice. > > I looked at the files under /root, and found > > there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. > > What is that? Can I delete it? > > That tells me you

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 17:43, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: >> Thanks for the advice. >> I looked at the files under /root, and found >> there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. >> What is that? Can I delete

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:39 -0600, jie gong wrote: > Thanks for the advice. > I looked at the files under /root, and found > there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. > What is that? Can I delete it? That tells me you should not be using X as root. Yes you can remove the file... ti pr

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread jie gong
Thanks for the advice. I looked at the files under /root, and found there is a file .xsession-errors has size 4003647488. What is that? Can I delete it? On 1/18/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:08:46PM -0600, jie gong wrote: > Hi > I am a newbee

RE: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Kevin Ross
_ From: jie gong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:09 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Why there is no space left on root partition? Hi I am a newbee to debian linux. I found my root partition is full. My root partition has 4 GB, but I added

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:08:46PM -0600, jie gong wrote: > Hi > I am a newbee to debian linux. I found my root partition is full. > My root partition has 4 GB, but I added the size of files under the root > partition, anyway they did not hit the 4GB, not even close. > Where did the space go? > >

Re: Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 17:08, jie gong wrote: > Hi > I am a newbee to debian linux. I found my root partition is full. > My root partition has 4 GB, but I added the size of files under the root > partition, anyway they did not hit the 4GB, not even close. > Where

Why there is no space left on root partition?

2007-01-18 Thread jie gong
Hi I am a newbee to debian linux. I found my root partition is full. My root partition has 4 GB, but I added the size of files under the root partition, anyway they did not hit the 4GB, not even close. Where did the space go? Here is some output which may be useful. command: du -hcs /* 3.3M