RE: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-09 Thread Valaki Valahol
Hello... Ok Stefan, but what do You suggest instead of skype ? Such a chat program that it has versions for all major operating systems ? (Linux, MacOS, Win) Zoltan To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: monn...@iro.umontreal.ca Subject: Re: Without SKYPE? Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 23:48

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Valaki Valahol ozolt...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello... Ok Stefan, but what do You suggest instead of skype ? Such a chat program that it has versions for all major operating systems ? (Linux, MacOS, Win) Use xmpp and it doesn't much matter which client you use.

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
But can they talk to folks using SKYPE? I talk to folks using Skype every day. I don't use Skype myself, I try to convince them to switch to something else, but that doesn't prevent me from talking to them. Stefan ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/2/13 11:08 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 22:20:28 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Lars Noodén
On 5/2/13 11:40 PM, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 09:10:51PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 21:48:11 +0200, Slavko wrote: Dňa 02.05.2013 21:24 Brian wrote / napísal(a): I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network? Please, read carefully all

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 0:08, Brian a écrit : On Thu 02 May 2013 at 13:46:50 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: We are in agreement. If you want to get in touch with somone on the Skype network then the Skype software has to be used

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Jeu 2 mai 2013 21:23, Kelly Clowers a écrit : On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 May 2013 at 09:40:57 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 5/2/13 11:08 PM, Brian wrote: Users on SIP-network-X can only communicate with SIP-network-Y is not an unknown situation. How does that differ from Skype? I haven't run into that yet. Which SIP networks are to be avoided?

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Chris Davies
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: However, sip...@sipgate.co.uk works for phones registered with the network (just like Skype). There is no connection established when the call is from another network (again, just like Skype). This restriction was put in place by Sipgate to stop VoIP SPAM.

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 May 2013 at 13:27:14 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: However, sip...@sipgate.co.uk works for phones registered with the network (just like Skype). There is no connection established when the call is from another network (again, just like Skype).

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-03 Thread Chris Davies
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 03 May 2013 at 13:27:14 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: However, sip...@sipgate.co.uk works for phones registered with the network (just like Skype). There is no connection established when the call is from another

Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Alex Padoly
Hi, I would like to know if there is a light and reliable alternative to Skype. Thanks you for your answers and your experiences. Regards. Alex

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Nooden
There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread André Nunes Batista
There are many voip softwares available and ekiga may be the most prominent. Although not the ideal from a free software perspective, you can also use a plugin to access skype network through pidgin. -- -- André Nunes Batista ---BeginMessage--- Hi, I would like to know if there is a light

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 18:24:02 +0200, Alex Padoly wrote: I would like to know if there is a light and reliable alternative to Skype. Thanks you for your answers and your experiences. You are asking about an alternative to the Skype software which will allow you to communicate with other people

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:29:15 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. All these SIP phones may very well be

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go with XMPP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go with XMPP. It is the OP who needs to clarify what he wants. My view is clear: there is no alternative to Skype in the software field. It reigns supreme. If you

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go with XMPP. It is the OP who needs to clarify what he wants. My view is clear: there is no alternative to Skype in the

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Doug
On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. Regards, /Lars But can they talk to folks using

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single company like Skype. Regards,

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other, not locked into a single

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go with XMPP. It is the OP who needs to clarify what he wants. My

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go with XMPP. It is the OP who needs to

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhăes wrote: Since you didn't clarify what you mean by alternative to Skype, i'll go

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Slavko
Dňa 02.05.2013 21:24 Brian wrote / napísal(a): I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network? Please, read carefully all the previous posts. The explanation is there. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description:

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 22:20:28 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2013, Doug wrote: On 05/02/2013 12:29 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: There are Blink, Linphone, Ekiga, Jitsi, and maybe a few others. Jitsi is quite useful. These are all SIP phones so they can all talk to each other,

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 21:48:11 +0200, Slavko wrote: Dňa 02.05.2013 21:24 Brian wrote / napísal(a): I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network? Please, read carefully all the previous posts. The explanation is there. I did. And it

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network? It doesn't. The Skype protocol is proprietary. Really! :) So XMPP isn't in the picture?

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread staticsafe
On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network? It doesn't. The Skype protocol is proprietary. Really! :) So

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Chris Davies
Andr? Nunes Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com wrote: There are many voip softwares available and ekiga may be the most prominent. Although not the ideal from a free software perspective, you can also use a plugin to access skype network through pidgin. The Pidgin plugin uses the Skype

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: I did. How does it allow someone not running the *Skype spoftware* to conect with the Skype network?

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 16:22:55 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 16:14, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:28:08 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:24, Brian wrote: I did. How does it allow someone not

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 12:31:01 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 15:13:51 -0400, staticsafe wrote: On 5/2/2013 15:10, Brian wrote: On Thu 02 May 2013 at 19:25:57 +0100, Nuno Magalhăes wrote: Since

Re: Without SKYPE?

2013-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2013 at 13:46:50 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: We are in agreement. If you want to get in touch with somone on the Skype network then the Skype software has to be used somewhere along the line. As far as I