Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-11 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:28:27 -0700 ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's great that you get around to making linux a part of your computing day, and you have a point in that regular desktop users who want all the bells and whistles seem to be accommodated more by microsoft than by any of the

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-11 Thread Petro
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:22:14AM -0700, Phillip Deackes wrote: This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-11 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:59:01 -0700 Petro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you agree with me that forcing commercial buildings to be handicap accessible is wrong? After all, they are being forced to do *major* redesigns of the buildings (much more time consuming and expensive than

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread ben
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 08:31 am, Phillip Deackes wrote: On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:51:36 -0700 Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last paragraph is indicative of the masses: I am not interested in telling web designers ~. Simply multiply that by your local census, and

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread John Habermann
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:32, Tim Dijkstra wrote: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 07:49:01 +0100 Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200 Luca Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta Depends

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Phillip Deackes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200 Luca Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no browser in

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, John Habermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:32, Tim Dijkstra wrote: On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 07:49:01 +0100 Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no browser in Linux which can correctly

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
on Tue, Apr 09, 2002, Phillip Deackes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Define correctly display? For standard HTML, there's no problem. Ditto, if you want to abuse yourself by installing the plugins, most flash, Java, and Javascript, though I disable these, and don't patronize sites requiring

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 10 April 2002 03:22 am, Phillip Deackes wrote: I am afraid I cannot be so arrogant about this. What I do on the Internet is not always to do with Linux, or with other such highbrow subjects. Sometimes I just want to play, or do some

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:51:36 -0700 Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last paragraph is indicative of the masses: I am not interested in telling web designers ~. Simply multiply that by your local census, and soon it becomes apparent how horrible problems begin. I *do* take

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread John Habermann
Thanks for that Karsten. I just hadn't installed the kdebase-crypto package for some reason. Still find that it had some difficulty with some of the government department sites that use active server pages. But then I have to tell opera to identify itself as MSIE 5.0 in order for it to load

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Phillip Deackes quotation: sheep rant deleted Wrap your text. -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free, but fiber http://www.eiv.com | optic cable wants to be one million US AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | dollars per mile.

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Jaye Inabnit ke6sls quotation: I *do* take the time to post notes to webmins when I hit a site I can not access without forking over money to M$. I don't have M$ on my box, and I am going to keep it that way, but I still want to access the info I am seeking. I don't think that it

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Phillip Deackes quotation: sheer weight of numbers using them. This is the way of the world. The best methods do not necessarily win through - the Video2000/Betamax/VHS issue immediately springs to mind where the poorest quality format won the battle. Yes, it does, because it is an

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Phillip Deackes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:51:36 -0700 Jaye Inabnit ke6sls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last paragraph is indicative of the masses: I am not interested in telling web designers ~. Simply multiply that by your local census, and soon it

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:58:16 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Phillip Deackes quotation: sheep rant deleted Wrap your text. Huh? AFAIK my email messages conform to what is expected amongst Linux circles. I was not aware of a problem - you are the first to suggest it. I

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Phillip Deackes quotation: Huh? AFAIK my email messages conform to what is expected amongst Linux circles. I was not aware of a problem - you are the first to suggest it. You've fixed it. Maybe you changed an option in that one message? -- Shawn McMahon|

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:22:27 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it does, because it is an excellent example; a bunch of sheep used VHS, and we all got stuck with inferior technology as a result. A bunch of people who wanted to watch films and found they could get more VHS films

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Phillip Deackes quotation: A bunch of people who wanted to watch films and found they could get more VHS films than anything else. That's AFTER VHS won, not before. There is something inherently wrong with the notion that the hardware is more important than the software. There's

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Gary Turner
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:42:57 +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote: On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:58:16 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin Phillip Deackes quotation: Can anyone else confirm that I have a problem with message text not wrapping correctly? sigh I have a PAL TV because I live

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Wendell Cochran
Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:13:50 -0400 Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SNIP SNIP] So they do track this stuff, and they do respond. People complaining in mailing lists don't get it fixed, and people knuckling under and using proprietary browsers don't get it fixed, but people sending email DO

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Wendell Cochran quotation: Even parts-supply houses have informed me, haughtily, that if I want to look or buy I must `upgrade' my browser. CapitalOne learned on that one, too. Their page used to tell you if you were using Netscape 6, you had to upgrade to 4.7. I told them that

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-09 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200 Luca Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no browser in Linux which can correctly display all web sites thrown at it. AFAIK

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-09 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 07:49:01 +0100 Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 14:22:25 +0200 Luca Pasquali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta Depends whether you do 'real-world' bowsing or not. There is no

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-09 Thread François
Thanks a lot all Is the last opera (6beta1) better than the version 5 ? François On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:04:58 -0500 Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, François Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-09 Thread Ivar Alm
No clue about the Linux versions, but I use it on my Win machine, and it is a major upgrade. The Java support are more stable. Even the upgrade from 6.0 to 6.01 was good. It is definetely worth a download. //I At 18:14 2002-04-09, François Chenais wrote: Thanks a lot all Is the last

alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread François
Hello, I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Thanks. François -- Woody 3.0 Linux tanna 2.4.14 #3 SMP Thu Dec 6 14:04:03 CET 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Erik van der Meulen
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, Fran?ois Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Go for Galeon! Beats anything I have been on the web with to date! -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12 +0200, François Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Mozilla. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17,

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what François Chenais said on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. If you haven't found one yet, you aren't looking very hard. apt-get install mozilla galeon pgpcrJS9NI2PC.pgp

RE: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Luca Pasquali
Galeon is the only substitute that I've in mind by now, links rox :-) keta pgpWvO2sSJS0n.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:44:12 +0200 François Chenais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Then go for... konqueror! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, François Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Nobody's mentioned the slightly silly alternative so far, so try w3m with w3m-img in an xterm. (Seriously, I actually use this for

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, François Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Opera is the best I've found (though Mozilla is coming along nicely). -- Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Paul F. Pearson
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:44:12PM +0200, François Chenais wrote: I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Nobody's mentioned the slightly silly alternative so far, so try w3m with w3m-img in an

Re: alternative web browser to netscape

2002-04-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Apr 08, 2002, Fran?ois Chenais ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello, I'm under Woody and looking for an alternate web browser for replacing Netscape. Briefly: Galeon (GUI), w3m (console), dillo or light (lightweight GUI). For the longer view: