Re: CCing responses and signature

2006-05-03 Thread Mike McCarty
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Well I was hoping that you wouldn't say that... it won't boot from the DVD... I think that it's because the BIOS is so old... Try Smart Boot Manager. Works for me with CDROMs on an old machine with similar limitations. http://btmgr.webframe.org/ It may not

CCing responses and signature

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Well I was hoping that you wouldn't say that... it won't boot from the DVD... I think that it's because the BIOS is so old... I'm glad that you like the new sig... I don't really cc anyone, it's MS Outlook, I click the reply to all button, otherwise it only replies to you

Re: CCing responses and signature

2006-05-02 Thread Kent West
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: I don't really cc anyone, it's MS Outlook, I click the reply to all button, otherwise it only replies to you and not the list... I would suspect that you could then simply delete the individual's email from the To: line to avoid CC:ing that individual. --

Re: multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-14 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:54:43AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:39:55PM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: I know screen. My point is that I consider having to remember what I read an advantage because it forces me to actually *learn* instead of copying. Well each

Re: ccing

2004-06-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 07:13:41PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: A little pricier if you have to replace your entire machine to gat over the 48Meg limit because they don't make mamory that old any more. Hrmmm, how old would that be? Just got some sticks of PC133 off of

Re: multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:17:41AM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:54:43AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: I don't know how you can stand the serial console - I just setup linux on a sparcstation 5 using one yesterday and the speed drove me mad. Did you run it at

RE: ccing

2004-06-14 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccing Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often The usual reply

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Brian Nelson: I don't know about that. I've found that mutt is one of the painfully slowest MUAs around (at least at loading large Maildirs or IMAP folders) even on very fast computers... That's pretty simple to deal with. Archive old mail, and just keep a year's worth in

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: Google for reply-to considered harmful. This is an old philosophical issue. Actually as of 2822 it is a dead issue. The reply-to set by the lest was removed in 2822. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Scott wrote: On the original topic I do wish Thunderbird had Reply to List but I don't have any trouble doing Reply All and quickly modifying the addresses to only reply to the list. Go to Mozilla's bugzilla and vote for that bug. It is bugged and has been so for the past several

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: In other words, I don't need to watch all my mailboxes all the time; mutt's doing that for me. If new mail lands in any of them, the next time I type c to change to another folder, mutt offers to go to the next one in the list that contains new mail. Hit spacebar and it

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Czapla wrote: Right. I dont think he was talking about execution time. I also think that typing a single key to perform an action is much faster than having to move the mouse to an icon, click it, move to the text input box, click again, release the mouse and move your hand to the

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: I use a GUI almost all the time; X Window. And yes, I do have multiple XTerms on it. That's still a lot lighter than some of the multi-megabyte MUAs we're seeing these days. Consider the cost of that one feature you're hoping to satisfy that you think mutt can't provide.

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Paul Scott
Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Scott wrote: On the original topic I do wish Thunderbird had Reply to List but I don't have any trouble doing Reply All and quickly modifying the addresses to only reply to the list. Go to Mozilla's bugzilla and vote for that bug. It is bugged and has been so for

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Scott wrote: I have just spent the last 20 some odd minutes since seeing your post unsuccessfully trying to find out how to do that. Hints, please? Ok, once you're on the bug page right before the additional comments there's the option to vote for this bug. Each person who creates an

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Paul Scott
Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Scott wrote: I have just spent the last 20 some odd minutes since seeing your post unsuccessfully trying to find out how to do that. Hints, please? Ok, once you're on the bug page Funniest thing. I was about to ask you what bug page when I went back to the

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Scott wrote: I don't know how I would have found that bug page starting from Mozilla.org as I had done. What a maze! Do what I did. Google. :) Thanks. I've voted for them. NP. BTW, I mentioned it before but didn't give a link. Take a gander at elmo here:

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Paul Scott
Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Scott wrote: I don't know how I would have found that bug page starting from Mozilla.org as I had done. What a maze! Do what I did. Google. :) I did. I see I should have put reply to list in quotes! Thanks. I've voted for them. NP. BTW, I

multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 11:09:58PM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: Because of this and because it feels so UNIX-ish I mostly work at a serial terminal. Now when you read a man page, for some system call for example, I *have* to remember it because you cannot have the man page and text editor

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:46:10AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Cost of a stick of 512Mb PC2700 RAM (what I us in my gaming rig)... about $100. Thunderbird's footprint, 58Mb. Much of that footprint of course are clean X/GTK pages and so pay off double when you use another application (such

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 07:52:31PM -0400, S.D.A. wrote: Well, I have thousands of e-mails in a directory structure, and Mutt has no issues with that. I personally believe that having subdirectories, is largely irrelevant, in terms of mutt. Sub directories or more common is GUIs as that

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:33:58AM -0600, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Brian Nelson: I don't know about that. I've found that mutt is one of the painfully slowest MUAs around (at least at loading large Maildirs or IMAP folders) even on very fast computers... That's pretty simple

Re: multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Jonathan Dowland wrote: Consider looking at the package `screen', which allows you to maintain a session on a machine independent of the console you are typing from, and to multiplex virtual terminals on a single serial line. Screen is capable of displaying two composed terminals at once.

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:43:40AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: NP. BTW, I mentioned it before but didn't give a link. Take a gander at elmo here: http://elmo.sourceforge.net/. It's been packaged already. Certainly not as feature rich as, say, mutt but it does have one very important

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 08:16:32AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Having a separate reply-to-list function always seemed retarded to me. It's yet another keystroke to learn, and you have to keep track of whether you're replying to a mailing list or not. I much prefer the way gnus does it--a

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Jonathan Dowland wrote: There's a fairly old mutt patch to achieve this: http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~jrh29/mutt/index.html http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~jrh29/mutt/mutt_shot_patch8.png Huh, fairly old and it isn't in the mainline. Wonder why. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest,

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 03:23:48AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Jonathan Dowland wrote: There's a fairly old mutt patch to achieve this: http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~jrh29/mutt/index.html http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~jrh29/mutt/mutt_shot_patch8.png Huh, fairly old and it isn't in the mainline.

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 02:53:55PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Because of this and because it feels so UNIX-ish I mostly work at a serial terminal. Now when you read a man page, for some system call for example, I *have* to remember it because you cannot have the man page and text editor visible

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:36:15AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Matthias Czapla wrote: Right. I dont think he was talking about execution time. I also think that typing a single key to perform an action is much faster than having to move the mouse to an icon, click it, move to the text input

Re: multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-13 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:41:00AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 11:09:58PM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: Because of this and because it feels so UNIX-ish I mostly work at a serial terminal. Now when you read a man page, for some system call for example, I *have* to

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread S.D.A.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 02:43:40AM -0700 or thereabouts, Steve Lamb wrote: Paul Scott wrote: I don't know how I would have found that bug page starting from Mozilla.org as I had done. What a maze! Do what I did. Google. :) Thanks. I've voted for them. NP. BTW, I

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steve Lamb: Mutt's new mail here! feature doesn't provide any granularity betwee[n] ignore it completely (not in the list of folders to watch), give it the same weight as every other watched folder or check the folder list manually. Try using it in combination with (eg.)

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Matthias Czapla wrote: I know. But the canonical way to use a GUI and why they were invented is point-and-click. If you use a GUI like a console program, whats the purpose of having a GUI in the first place? Uhm, like I said, having the gui there doesn't make it keyboard neuter. We don't

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: Try using it in combination with (eg.) GKrellm. mutt knows about and watches a list of mailboxes. GKrellm knows about and watches a subset of that list. Between the two, you get notification of important mail arriving (Read me!), and information about potentially

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steve Lamb: s. keeling wrote: Try using it in combination with (eg.) GKrellm. mutt knows about and Why is the most common answer to this deficiency in mutt to use another program when we have addressed it by using another program? :) Uhhh?!? This is the quoteUnix

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Paul Scott
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Steve Lamb: s. keeling wrote: Try using it in combination with (eg.) GKrellm. mutt knows about and Why is the most common answer to this deficiency in mutt to use another program when we have addressed it by using another program? :)

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread dircha
Paul Scott wrote: s. keeling wrote: Or go with some 58 Mb monster that purports to be able to do everything. Choose your poison. A bit of exaggeration? I don't read my mail with OpenOffice which is about that size. Thunderbird is an order of magnitude smaller at under 8 Mb. Mutt and exim

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Brian Nelson
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Incoming from Brian Nelson: I don't know about that. I've found that mutt is one of the painfully slowest MUAs around (at least at loading large Maildirs or IMAP folders) even on very fast computers... That's pretty simple to deal with. Archive old

Re: multiple terminals on a serial line (was Re: ccing)

2004-06-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:39:55PM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: I know screen. My point is that I consider having to remember what I read an advantage because it forces me to actually *learn* instead of copying. Regards Matthias Well each to their own. Learning where to look is

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
s. keeling wrote: Uhhh?!? This is the quoteUnix Way/quote! Mutt handles mail. Other things do other stuff. You want better refinement over mutt's way of monitoring mailboxes? Add something else into the mix. There is a time to break down to smaller components and there is a time to add

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 01:46:10AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: s. keeling wrote: I use a GUI almost all the time; X Window. And yes, I do have multiple XTerms on it. That's still a lot lighter than some of the multi-megabyte MUAs we're seeing these days. Consider the cost of that one

Re: ccing

2004-06-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Hendrik Boom wrote: A little pricier if you have to replace your entire machine to gat over the 48Meg limit because they don't make mamory that old any more. Hrmmm, how old would that be? Just got some sticks of PC133 off of ebay a few weeks back. $70 for 512Mb. Are we talking 72pin,

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Cheryl Homiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I want to reply to all recipients. Reply

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Cheryl Homiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. I have no intention of changing my email system. Then you have no intention of fixing the problem, which is entirely on your end. 3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. I question that assertion. Had you done so, then you

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking list archives a long time ago and found it terribly inefficient. Is there some other efficient way to search lists.debian.org that I don't know about? Google. Use the site: argument. -- Paul Johnson

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, googling with an additional qualitifer of site:lists.debian.org or something like that. The disadvantage is that you don't get the ability to search on date ranges and stuff like that, which using the search engine provided by Debian for the

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:53:19 -0700 David Haughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came from a list, the reply should go to the list. If you want to reply to the author, that should take manual

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Cheryl Homiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have my configuration set to use reply-to; maybe that's wrong. Well-maintained mailing lists do *not* add a Reply-To: header (it's a user-set header, servers should not be changing it any more than it should be changing From: or Subject:). -- Paul

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Paul Scott: s. keeling wrote: No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? I would use mutt before pine any time but I use Thunderbird because of its 3 panes displaying all of my mailboxes and the headers from the selected mailbox or

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
Paul Johnson wrote: Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking list archives a long time ago and found it terribly inefficient. Is there some other efficient way to search lists.debian.org that I don't know about? Google. Use the site:

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:22:07AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I tell mutt to show me a few index lines at the top of the pager window. That gets the right two T-bird panes. I can sort the headers by any column with a click and reorganize the indexes. In the index view of mutt hit 'o' to

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Shot
Hello. Chris Metzler: Yeah, googling with an additional qualitifer of site:lists.debian.org or something like that. The disadvantage is that you don't get the ability to search on date ranges and stuff like that, Well, you can do a search with inurl:/2003/10/ and/or inurl:/debian-user/

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cheryl Homiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread S.D.A.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:22:07AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Scott wrote: Thanks for all your input. I've got The Mutt E-Mail Client doc open now and I will read some more and try some of this. I think I am equally at home in both GUI and text-based worlds and I think this may be a

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 08:16:32AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: I much prefer the way gnus does it--a followup function that figures out if you're replying to a list or not and does the right thing, i.e. either a reply-to-list or a reply-to-all. I've heard (seen) several praises to gnus

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
Matthias Czapla wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:22:07AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I tell mutt to show me a few index lines at the top of the pager window. That gets the right two T-bird panes. I can sort the headers by any column with a click and reorganize the indexes. In the

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:05:36PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Matthias Czapla wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:22:07AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I tell mutt to show me a few index lines at the top of the pager window. That gets the right two T-bird panes. I can sort the headers by any

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
S.D.A. wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:22:07AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Scott wrote: be a case where a quite good GUI email client like Thunderbird is going to win out overall over mutt at least on a larger sized screen. Maybe if mutt could simultaneously show more of it's views for X's

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
Matthias Czapla wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 12:05:36PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Matthias Czapla wrote: In the index view of mutt hit 'o' to sort by date, sender, size etc. True but the thread sort doesn't use a tree view. Mmmh, must be something with your configuration. I

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 01:12:07PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: I agree with and do a most of what you and others say. The *only* place I think T-bird is more efficient is for my case of a large number of mail folders with three levels of structure visible simultaneously on the screen. After

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Scott: Faster as far as processor time, etc. is not relevant *if the machine is fast enough* since the machine still has to wait for the user to do something. I couldn't care less whether the machine is waiting for me to do something. That's its job. :-) However,

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
Matthias Czapla wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 01:12:07PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: The *only* place I think T-bird is more efficient is for my case of a large number of mail folders with three levels of structure visible simultaneously on the screen. After I choose the folder with the mouse

Re: [SPAM] Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Paul Scott: Faster as far as processor time, etc. is not relevant *if the machine is fast enough* since the machine still has to wait for the user to do something. I couldn't care less whether the machine is waiting for me to do something. That's its job.

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Scott
Sorry I let that [SPAM] header get through. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread S.D.A.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 01:12:07PM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Scott wrote: S.D.A. wrote: I can however understand the argument that a GUI client is prettier, and easier to operate for the less-skilled term user, or that someone simply prefers Thunderbird to Mutt. It is a personal preference

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Travis Crump
S.D.A. wrote: There are some cool tools available for archiving, that (as far as I know) won't work with Thunderbird mail. I can search my '*.tar.gz' archives, at the same time as searching the active ones, via mboxgrep. So yes, Mutt is definitely the superior tool, as far as I'm concerned. Umm,

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 08:16:32AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: I much prefer the way gnus does it--a followup function that figures out if you're replying to a list or not and does the right thing, i.e. either a reply-to-list or a reply-to-all.

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Antonio Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 08:16:32AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: I much prefer the way gnus does it--a followup function that figures out if you're replying to a list or not and does the right thing, i.e.

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread S.D.A.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 09:41:20PM -0400 or thereabouts, Travis Crump wrote: S.D.A. wrote: There are some cool tools available for archiving, that (as far as I know) won't work with Thunderbird mail. I can search my '*.tar.gz' archives, at the same time as searching the active ones, via

Re: ccing

2004-06-12 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with and do a most of what you and others say. The *only* place I think T-bird is more efficient is for my case of a large number of mail folders with three levels of structure visible simultaneously on the screen. After I choose the folder with

ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I want to reply to all recipients. If I say no, I end up with the personal address

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came from a list, the reply should go to the list. If you want

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-11, Cheryl Homiak penned: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I want to reply to all recipients. If I say

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Ken Simon
Cheryl Homiak wrote: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I want to reply to all recipients. If I say no, I end up with

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
1. I have no intention of changing my email system. 2. I do take the time to manually change the destination address if it's wrong; otherwise, you would be getting a cc of this. so the idea that it will never happen is perhaps correct in percentage but not totally correct. 3. I also check

RE: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread David Haughton
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came from a list, the reply should go to the list.

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I have my configuration set to use reply-to; maybe that's wrong. However, it isn't purely a Pine problem; I never have this problem with many lists to which I am subscribed; the list email is automatically chosen. In fact, I have to intervene manually with very few lists and this is one of

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:53:19AM -0700, David Haughton wrote: Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often The usual reply to this is submit a

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:53:19 -0700 David Haughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came from a list, the reply should go to the list. If you want to reply to the author, that should take manual intervention. In the meantime, switch to

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Ken Simon
Chris Metzler wrote: Most email clients I've encounterred (mutt, sylpheed, balsa, evolution, etc.) don't act this way. Outlook is MS crap and is broken in lots of other ways too. Pine is old; is it still even being developed? Thunderbird, OTOH, I thought *did* handle this correctly, and is

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: 1. I have no intention of changing my email system. No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? You should have no trouble going from one to the other interchangably (they shouldn't do any rmail style mangling of your existing mail, for instance). The

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: I have my configuration set to use reply-to; maybe that's wrong. However, it isn't purely a Pine problem; I never have this problem with many lists to which I am subscribed; the list email is automatically chosen. In fact, I have to intervene manually with very

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Scott
s. keeling wrote: No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? I would use mutt before pine any time but I use Thunderbird because of its 3 panes displaying all of my mailboxes and the headers from the selected mailbox or folder and the current message simultaneously. I use

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:03 -0700 Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: s. keeling wrote: 3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. Everyone forgets from time to time. Many never check. I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking list archives a long time ago and

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Scott
Chris Metzler wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:03 -0700 Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: s. keeling wrote: 3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. Everyone forgets from time to time. Many never check. I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Scott: s. keeling wrote: No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? I would use mutt before pine any time but I use Thunderbird because of its 3 panes displaying all of my mailboxes and the headers from the selected mailbox or folder and the current

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-11-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:04:25PM -0500, Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:17:52AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: My .muttrc highlights my own posts (bright cyan) in index view, and notes posts in response to or mentioning my name (easier for me than

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-11-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:20:30AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:36:16AM -0600, Ron Jr wrote: | On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 07:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: | On Tue, Oct 28, 2003

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-11-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Karsten M. Self wrote: Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: In that situation, mutt's set ignore_list_reply_to = yes # fix broken mailing list software option is what you need! [...] All the more reason why reply-to munging is harmful in the first place. But in a balance of evils, it's

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-11-01 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 11:19:33AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: This has the unfortunate effect that reply-to is just completely useless. It was made useless when the original list munged it. But two wrongs do not make a right. Three do. :-) I thought that was two wrongs don't make a right,

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-31 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031029 07:26]: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:44:52PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:12:28PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not used much), when I click reply it's your

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-30 Thread Steve Lamb
David Gaudine wrote: I wouldn't use reply to all, I'd just CC the one person. But indeed, for those who have to choose between reply and Reply to all and don't want to adjust things manually, that problem is there. How would you do that, though? The most common example of CCing the person

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
with people ccing me on list replies, and decided that filtering duplicates wasn't suitable for me. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
filtering for such accounts). I know I had this problem when I first subscribed to the list. But otherwise, I tend to agree with the list policy that CCing someone that doesn't explicitly request it is impolite. This is true and I can see where that would come in handy. ..should'nt

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread moseley
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a filter, and for reasons that I don't understand choose not to do so

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Ron Jr
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 07:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: [snip] Is CC'ing at epidemic levels on debian-user? I don't find it bad, since the debian- mailing lists are

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:57:42AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:14:15AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:03:05PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Most of the people who have this problem, I believe, have the technical ability to setup such a

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
, or are people going to the trouble of CCing manually? I hit the g key in mutt. It usually does do CCs. I'm told that there is a header that people can set to request no CCs. I think you mentionned something along those lines. I am pretty sure mutt respects that. I think most of the CCs you

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:39:19AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: Just my perception of it:- It's unnecessary. If someone is already subscribed to a list, obviously they are going to receive the post. To cc as well, to the same recipient, is not only pointless, it can be invasive. If this

Re: netiquette: CCing on lists

2003-10-29 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:44:52PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:12:28PM -0500, David Gaudine wrote: With this mail program (the default Mac mail program, which I've not used much), when I click reply it's your address that gets used. I manually changed it in my

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